Re: How to contact OpenGL package maintainer (where is Sven?)

Taking the discussion back to the libraries@ list. The OpenGL packages weren't updated, as they added new dependent packages using funny parts of the top level namespace. In particular, StateVar took "Data.StateVar" -- which isn't necessarily something the HP wants to push on beginner Haskellers. Moving those modules under OpenGL.*.*.StateVar etc would remove the problems with upgrading to the HP. -- Don On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Jason Dagit wrote:

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Don Stewart wrote:

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Note, there are some issues, as this is a package in the Haskell Platform, to do with upgrading and dependent packages. We should talk first about issues there.

An older version is in the HP, but Johan pointed out to me in a private email that the latest version is not in the HP.  Here are the results of my research into that:

I'm not finding much in the way of reasons why the *Raw packages were not added or why OpenGL/GLUT were not updated. There are these: http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/ticket/157 http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/ticket/158 That's a request for the latest version of GLUT and OpenGL.  I found those via the archives but the threads are empty and no comments on the tickets. Magnus created those tickets as a result of this thread, I believe: http://projects.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-platform/2011-February/001401.... Is that the thread in your memory?  Perhaps it was this one? http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2009-June/011920.html That one turned into a discussion of the module system. I added a proposal to add OpenGLRaw, but no one commented on it: http://projects.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-platform/2011-March/001506.htm... Based on that, it seems that Magnus wants the packages updated, and I'd like to see the *Raw packages added to the platform.  I don't see any dissenting public opinions on the libraries list or on the trac, other than tickets #57 and #58 that make a case for removing OpenGL and GLUT entirely from the platform.  Tickets #57 and #58 seem to be old though.

If you have more information or I overlooked something, please let me know :) Thanks, Jason

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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jason Dagit wrote:

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No response yet from Sven after about a month and no one seems to have heard from him in over a year.

I'm going to take over for now under the assumption that Sven is missing. == My plans for moving forward ==   * Assemble an opengl taskforce, a few people have already mentioned an interest in being on the team   * clean up the current cabal files (I already wrote patches for that)   * put the repos on github to make team collaboration easier   * add the RULES that Andy Gill suggested for realToFrac   * look at adding instances for MArray so that GLfloat et al can be stored in IOUArrays   * add support for opengl 4.x   * look at adding deprecation pragmas for deprecated opengl calls   * new hackage releases   * anything else that comes up Thanks, Jason

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jason Dagit wrote:

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I sent the message below to Haskell-Cafe about a week ago. I got one response saying that Sven has disappeared in the past but reappeared when updates were necessary.  I still haven't heard from Sven.  Now I'm widening my search.  My original email to Sven was on March 11th. It looks like the OpenGL packages on hackage[1,2,3,4] have not been updated in some time.  No updates later than Oct 2009.  I tried to email Sven directly using the email address listed on hackage but after over two weeks I still haven't heard from him.  I sent some patches to the opengl list about a week ago but I noticed that Sven hasn't posted on that list since Oct 2009 when he released the current version of OpenGLRaw.  None of the public darcs repos have patches newer than Oct 2009.  Also, the homepage url listed in the packages is a 404: http://www.haskell.org/HOpenGL/ My concern is that Sven has disappeared for some reason.  I hope he's well.  He has always done top notch work in the past maintaining these libraries.  Perhaps he's simply busy or lost interest? Does anyone know if he was looking for a new maintainer?  Perhaps you've heard from him more recently than Oct 2009? If a new maintainer is needed, I would consider nominating myself :) Thanks, Jason [1] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenGLRaw [2] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenGL [3] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/GLURaw [4] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/GLUT

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