Axel Simon wrote:
Heinrich Apfelmus wrote:
I'm on MacOS and it's similar for me. GTK just keeps crashing randomly or behaving weirdly, reducing the utility of cool tools like hp2any .
The same question: do you mean Gtk2Hs or Gtk+? If it's the former, then we should fix the bugs. We are about to release Gtk 0.11.1 which has hopefully now all the concurrency bugs ironed out. Having cabalized Gtk2Hs, I hope users find the libraries more inviting to send in patches since it's now fairly simple to understand how to build the beast.
I mean Gtk+, though I can't really know, of course. But I have much more trust in the Haskell side. :)
Even if it's not a native GUI on MacOS, I'd at least accept gtk2hs if it were bundling a precompiled version of the GTK libraries that just works (tm).
I hope that the Aqua port of Gtk+ will mature eventually and that Gtk+ reaches a similar look-and-feel as Qt on the major three platforms. It will never be perfect, but if there's some sort of abstraction for the menu bar and some good themes, then it might be acceptable to most people.
For me, it's mostly a question of stability and "zippiness". I accept Gimp but I don't like Inkscape, for example.
Having Gtk2Hs in the platform would then be very convenient as it would relieve the user from the burden of installing all those different binary libraries. I am not willing to invest the time to provide a Mac and Windows installer just for Gtk2Hs since then I always have to track the ghc and platform releases and opens a lot of different platform problems that cabal currently abstracts for me.
Ah, using cabal for Gtk2Hs is fine, the Haskell side usually works very well. What I had in mind is that it ships a compiled version of the corresponding Gtk+ libraries, because the real pain on MacOS is to install those. There was a precompiled Gtk+ framework if I remember correctly, but that one seems to be unsupported nowadays; or one can install from source but that takes hours and then you'll run into at least one compilation error and throw up your arms in desperation. Regards, Heinrich Apfelmus -- http://apfelmus.nfshost.com