On Wed, 24 Feb 2016, amindfv@gmail.com wrote:
What happened in the FTP was that the libraries@ had a heated discussion, the issue was taken to the users and to a vote, and we ended up with a clear message from users: 80% voted in one direction.
And the community as a whole is still not happy.
My suspicion is that on this issue too, libraries@ is more divided than the community is. I suggest we try to put this issue to bed, and if ~80% of the community says they don't want these instances, then yes -- core libraries should use Writer instead of redefining their own instance for (,). Similarly, if ~80% want the instances, we can grumble that users are wrong but democracy has spoken.
That's not democracy, but majority. I think we need other ways for making decisions. I had already proposed one.