Zemyla, I would expect more charitable reception of anything said by anyone, but especially when the original author stated clearly in the very same message that they are not a native English speaker. And even if the words are to be taken on face value, do note that no one has called anyone a tyrant. Calling out specific behaviour (that predates the current pandemic) as "tyrannous" (or "tyrannical") and naming someone a tyrant is simply not the same thing. On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 13:06:20, Zemyla < zemyla@gmail.com > wrote:
So you're saying that the fact that there's basically a civil war and pandemic going on is no excuse to respond to e-mails. And you're calling his behavior "tyrannous" when there are literal tyrants shooting tear gas at civilians.
I gotta admit, this makes me disinclined to believe you're acting in good faith. Sometimes shit happens to good people, and someone who can't show a little compassion in these (pardon the cliche) unprecedented times is not someone I want anywhere involved in package management.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 02:18 Fumiaki Kinoshita < fumiexcel@ gmail. com ( fumiexcel@gmail.com ) > wrote:
For example video call is not a great method for me because of the following reasons:
* I'm not a good English speaker (especially I sometimes have difficulty with colloquial American English)
* I live in a different timezone
* I prefer open communication
Although it's totally fine that you have a preference, I have no doubt that core library maintenance should have more acceptance and transparency.
I hesitated talking about this because issues might get locked/edited/deleted, and the participants might get accused of being "thick headed assholes" again like you did in https:/ / github. com/ haskell/ vector/ issues/ 267#issuecomment-579588727 ( https://github.com/haskell/vector/issues/267#issuecomment-579588727 ) , but I must say:
Frankly, it feels extremely unfair that you ask us to focus on "technical matters" (which excludes maintenance for some reason) only, while you frequently use non-technical reasons (your diseases and the situation in New York) as an excuse. Your asthma doesn't rub me in the wrong way; your tyrannous behaviour does. With all due respect I suggest you not to use CLC privileges to cope with your personal stresses.
2020年6月5日(金) 7:29 Carter Schonwald < carter. schonwald@ gmail. com ( carter.schonwald@gmail.com ) >:
and more details to follow in a few days, i'm pretty fried, there was a police shooting this morning 1 block from my aparment plus a whole mess of stuff going on in lowermanhattan where i live most of the time this week thats got me on edge and stressed out of my gourd.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 6:24 PM Carter Schonwald < carter. schonwald@ gmail. com ( carter.schonwald@gmail.com ) > wrote:
i've added a few folks at uploader/contributor bits, and this is generally something all core libraries need. i really prefer discussion via video call or voice chat or 1-1 neutral language..
yesterday i was pretty laid up with some pretty bad asthma etc and allergy drugs, and I'm sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way .
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:50 AM Profpatsch < mail@ profpatsch. de ( mail@profpatsch.de ) > wrote:
chessai . < chessai1996@ gmail. com ( chessai1996@gmail.com ) > writes:
Yes, please contact me about these concerns. I am reachable via email at
chessai1996@ gmail. com ( chessai1996@gmail.com ).
Great, I’m looking forward to seeing this matter resolved swiftly.
I am a fan of discussing community matters openly, but everybody can
of course decide whether they want to speak up publicly or privately
talk to a trustee.
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 12:24 PM David Feuer < david. feuer@ gmail. com ( david.feuer@gmail.com ) > wrote:
> I urge everyone to direct all further comments on this topic to the
> current chair of the CLC. There is nothing to be gained from public
> discussion of a "personnel" matter.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 10:03 AM Profpatsch < mail@ profpatsch. de ( mail@profpatsch.de ) > wrote:
>
>>
>> I posted this comment on the thread of
>> https:/ / github. com/ haskell/ random/ pull/ 62#issuecomment-638088258 ( https://github.com/haskell/random/pull/62#issuecomment-638088258 )
>>
>> Since it was deleted and the comment thread locked by Carter,
>> I am escalating this request to the mailing list, where it cannot be
>> deleted.
>>
>> Profpatsch < notifications@ github. com ( notifications@github.com ) > writes:
>>
>> > @cartazio Please take even a fleeting look at
>> https:/ / github. com/ idontgetoutmuch/ random/ pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed ( https://github.com/idontgetoutmuch/random/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed ) ,
>> notice the amount of discussion and the timeline.
>> >
>> > This is the full-time work of a team of half a dozen of experts,
>> probably breaching one man-year of effort, easily.
>> > It cannot just be discarded out of hand.
>> >
>> > I have been following the discussions (spread over mailinglists, issue
>> trackers and elsewhere), and I propose you hand over maintainership of
>> `random` as a base package.
>>
>> A parallel issue with relevant discussion can be found at
>> https:/ / github. com/ haskell/ random/ pull/ 61 ( https://github.com/haskell/random/pull/61 )
>>
>> I am writing this email from my personal account, because I fear for
>> the health of the Haskell ecosystem, and I think Carter’s behaviour is
>> extremely detrimental to it.
>>
>> I think a lot of other people feel the same way, so I encourage you to
>> add your voice publicly.
>>
>> ~ Profpatsch
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