Hello Sven, Friday, November 24, 2006, 12:24:34 PM, you wrote:
This is not to say that the cathedral model is necessarily a bad one, but it seems a shame that with tools that seem so ideal for bazaar-style development, users are reduced from participants to consumers.
Even if my last emails on this list might give a different impression, I really like bazaar-style development. But currently all the necessary tools (cabal-get etc.) and APIs (e.g. stuff needed in the Setup.hs for Cabal) are far from being stable and widespread (Does your latest and greatest openSUSE DVD or Ubuntu download have all this? And if yes, which API version? Does your Setup.hs still work?). This is no criticism of the projects, quite the opposite, it is just the current state of affairs. I fear that if we move from the cathedral to the bazaar too fast without having the necessary infrastructure already on everybody's hard disk, we will hurt Haskell development more than we help it.
i'm pretty happy with just darcs + cabal (and i also participated in fps development a bit). while for the users who can't use it, the things will remain the same - they will got a large number of preinstalled and/or easily installed libs which they can consider as unbreakable thing. and at the same time, any new libs they install may silently require other versions of the same libs, install them and users will not even see that something changed so, i think that both models now supported, we just don't have tools to simplify working in bazaar model -- Best regards, Bulat mailto:Bulat.Ziganshin@gmail.com