Björn Bringert wrote:

http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Libraries_and_tools Problems:

- The page is very large. - Many sections are large.

How about separating each category/section into a new page, all linked from a single category index at the current location?

- Many of the libraries have been moved into the standard libraries.

It is very useful for people looking for a particular piece of functionality to know that there is a "standard" library for it. It might be good to put references to *more* of the standard libraries.

- Some libraries are listed in multiple sections (at least some CGI libraries, there might be more).

Some libraries do span more than one category?

- Small and large, new and old libraries are mixed, and it's difficult for the reader to asses which things are relevant.

An indication of size and healthiness would be very useful.

- Replace dead links with Internet Archive links

Good, but only if coupled with the "obsolete" marking below.

- Create an "obsolete" subsection of each section, and move old stuff there. Of course it can be difficult to figure out which things are obsolete, but I guess a first approximation would be everything for which the link is dead.

Yes. The general healthiness of a library is an important feature to notate. Regards, Malcolm

Hello Björn, Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 1:35:42 PM, you wrote: BB> I recently wanted to add some libraries to BB> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Libraries_and_tools and noticed a BB> number of problems. there is also HCAR report. my thoughts is what we should create some central repository including libs/apps/papers/communities and so on and replace both this page and HCAR with it. then anyone should include himself here and edit the info as progress does. i also created Library/Streams as possible part of this future enciclopedy, having in mind that Library page will list all libs documented on haskellwiki. another interesting place which should list libs is hackage repository i think that we should discuss this question and develop a common place where everyone will list his libs/apps/... and document it as much as he wants -- Best regards, Bulat mailto:Bulat.Ziganshin@gmail.com

Björn Bringert wrote:

Hi all,

I recently wanted to add some libraries to http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Libraries_and_tools and noticed a number of problems.

Problems:

- The page is very large.

- Many sections are large.

- Many of the libraries linked to are obsolete.

- Many of the links are dead [1].

- Many of the libraries have been moved into the standard libraries.

- Some libraries are listed in multiple sections (at least some CGI libraries, there might be more).

- Small and large, new and old libraries are mixed, and it's difficult for the reader to asses which things are relevant.

- The page is not valid XHTML, the W3C Validator finds 433 errors [2].

* The pages uses <dt> tags everywhere, even though there is Wiki markup for definition lists. This seems to be causing most of the problems.

Some possible remedies:

- Replace dead links with Internet Archive links

- Create an "obsolete" subsection of each section, and move old stuff there. Of course it can be difficult to figure out which things are obsolete, but I guess a first approximation would be everything for which the link is dead.

- For libraries which are part of the standard libraries, provide links to the haddock page for the relevant module.

- Replace HTML tags with Wiki markup.

I'm willing to start working on this, but I want to check with you guys first. Any comments, ideas, or flames?

I guess that if I start doing major stuff like chaning the mark-up, I'll put a note at the top asking people to hold off editing for a short while.

I have now split the huge Libraries and Tools page into about 20 smaller pages, all linked to from the main page, cleaned up all the mark-up, and marked any dead links for which there weren't obvious replacements with a new template: {{dead link}}. I have tried to move some entries around to get the "standard" ones near the top and dead ones at the bottom. I haved added links to a few modules in the standard libraries where I found it appropriate. It would be great if you all could have a look at the libraries pages for the categories in which you are interested and make sure that: * all the libraries that you maintain or use are listed, and that the entries are reasonable accurate. * any entries which are obsolete are removed. * there are entries for relevant modules in the standard libraries. * the entries are in some kind of order of importance. * the pages link to any of the other library pages that might be relevant for that category. There is still a "Various" section on the main page, with things that I couldn't figure out where to put. You are very welcome to figure out good places too move these to, adding pages as necessary. Remember to link to any new pages from the main page. /Björn