greg:

Don Stewart writes:

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http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/new/

It looks good here overall, but I have a couple of gentle criticisms / mild suggestions:

* Eeeeuuuuuuggggggh, Arial before Helvetica in the font stack makes the text look horrible on my Mac. If you want Arial on Windows (because Windows renders Helvetica horribly) you could try:

font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif;

instead. It'll look a lot better. Or just "sans-serif"; Windows will probably pick Arial, Linux and Mac systems will pick a sensible font, and everyone will be happy.

* The "Download Haskell" text should be in HTML, and removed from the .png -- I could see if it was some cool heading font that wasn't likely to be on the user's system, but it's in Trebuchet MS -- double yuck.

Fixed, thanks!

gale:

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http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/new/

The link for Mac is a direct download of a disk image to install the platform.

That will work on *every* reasonable Mac? Let's say, every Mac that is currently officially supported by Apple? Tiger, Leopard, and Snow Leopard? Intel and PowerPC?

If not, then that link must go to a landing page with a choice of what to do, like for Linux.

Same comment for Windows. Are XP, Vista, and Windows 7 all supported? No other "gotchas"?

The plan (for tomorrow) is to have download pages for each distro, rather than just a direct link. That way we can also suggest, e.g. the macports build. -- Don

I don't think I'll have time soon to work on this. I do want to note that, in the original design, we left out as much as possible on purpose. For example, I don't like the text on the rhs. If people want to know more, they'll click on "Learn more...". I don't think it adds a lot of value. What do you guys think? -chris On 21 mrt 2010, at 03:40, Gregory Collins wrote:

Don Stewart writes:

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gale:

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http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/new/

The link for Mac is a direct download of a disk image to install the platform.

That will work on *every* reasonable Mac? Let's say, every Mac that is currently officially supported by Apple? Tiger, Leopard, and Snow Leopard? Intel and PowerPC?

If not, then that link must go to a landing page with a choice of what to do, like for Linux.

Same comment for Windows. Are XP, Vista, and Windows 7 all supported? No other "gotchas"?

The plan (for tomorrow) is to have download pages for each distro, rather than just a direct link.

That way we can also suggest, e.g. the macports build.

The link to my build should be clearly labeled as being for Leopard (10.5) and above, it won't work for Tiger (10.4) or lower.

G -- Gregory Collins _______________________________________________ Libraries mailing list Libraries@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries

simonpj:

| I do want to note that, in the original design, we left out as much as possible on | purpose. For example, I don't like the text on the rhs. If people want to know more, | they'll click on "Learn more...". I don't think it adds a lot of value. What do you | guys think?

Personally I think it looks lovely, but oddly sparse as it stands -- although I expect that's design goal.

Myself I'd put all the "learn more" stuff just below the lovely header material. Just looking at it, it's hard to know what the HP is, or whether one might want it.

I've rewritten the "Learn more" page. Let me know what you all think! -- Don

ah i see. but Chromes says "Download a fast free web browser, and amplifies that some: screenshot, fast startup, fast loading, fast search" But a "development environment" might mean an IDE like Visual Studio. Saying a bit more, such as this (below) would, I think, be helpful. - An integrated set of Haskell tools: - Compiler (GHC) - Lexer and parser generators (Happy, Alex) - Documentation generation (Haddock) - Rich set of libraries (see here<link> for details) - Cabal installer for one-stop library management - ...items for coverage, profiling, etc.... - All quality-controlled, mutually compatible, and pre-compiled - Community supported and released regularly (timetable<link>) | -----Original Message----- | From: libraries-bounces@haskell.org [mailto:libraries-bounces@haskell.org] On Behalf | Of Don Stewart | Sent: 22 March 2010 13:00 | To: Chris Eidhof | Cc: Haskell-platform@community.haskell.org; libraries@haskell.org | Subject: Re: Beta version of the new HP site | | I like it :) | | But I based it on what chrome does: o | | http://www.google.com/chrome | | to give some sense of what the page is for if you're not already | familiar. | | chris: | > I don't think I'll have time soon to work on this. | > | > I do want to note that, in the original design, we left out as much as possible on | purpose. For example, I don't like the text on the rhs. If people want to know more, | they'll click on "Learn more...". I don't think it adds a lot of value. What do you | guys think? | > | > -chris | > | > On 21 mrt 2010, at 03:40, Gregory Collins wrote: | > | > > Don Stewart writes: | > > | > >> gale: | > >>>> http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/new/ | > >>> | > >>> The link for Mac is a direct download of a disk image to | > >>> install the platform. | > >>> | > >>> That will work on *every* reasonable Mac? | > >>> Let's say, every Mac that is currently officially | > >>> supported by Apple? Tiger, Leopard, and Snow Leopard? | > >>> Intel and PowerPC? | > >>> | > >>> If not, then that link must go to a landing page with | > >>> a choice of what to do, like for Linux. | > >>> | > >>> Same comment for Windows. Are XP, Vista, and Windows 7 | > >>> all supported? No other "gotchas"? | > >> | > >> The plan (for tomorrow) is to have download pages for each distro, | > >> rather than just a direct link. | > >> | > >> That way we can also suggest, e.g. the macports build. | > > | > > The link to my build should be clearly labeled as being for Leopard | > > (10.5) and above, it won't work for Tiger (10.4) or lower. | > > | > > G | > > -- | > > Gregory Collins | > > _______________________________________________ | > > Libraries mailing list | > > Libraries@haskell.org | > > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries | > | > | _______________________________________________ | Libraries mailing list | Libraries@haskell.org | http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries

On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 23:15 -0400, wren ng thornton wrote:

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I don't think I'll have time soon to work on this.

I do want to note that, in the original design, we left out as much as possible on purpose. For example, I don't like the text on the rhs. If people want to know more, they'll click on "Learn more...". I don't

Chris Eidhof wrote: think it adds a lot of value. What do you guys think?

I liked it better with the original sparsity. I'm more bothered, though, by the longer header "Get the Haskell Platform//The standard..." especially since folks were already having issues with the original version getting messed up with different font sizes.

The purpose of that change was to more accurately describe what you were getting. We don't want people to mix up Haskell and the Haskell Platform. I think the size and layout is now ok on most browsers. If you find any where it looks bad then let us know. Duncan

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Don Stewart wrote:

Interesting. I can't reproduce that.

I see Chromium handles the positioning better: http://bifunctor.homelinux.net/~bas/screenshotChromium.png But, as you can see, the Haskell logo is falling out of view there also.

The style sheet is here if you can see a way to fix it:

Maybe I will have a stab at it tomorrow when it's not fixed by then. regards, Bas