I'm for yesod creating both a -users list and a -devel list. The former for questions specific to yesod, and the latter for design discussions specific to yesod. I'm interested in following the state of the web-space in Haskell, but thoroughly uninterested in yesod-specific discussions. As this thread shows, there are others in the same boat. I'd be still less interested if we added more general snap and happstack-related discussions of the same sort that exist here for yesod. I think this list should be for announcements and general discussions which have potential implications for more than one framework/library, even if they arise in the context of a specific framework or library. In fact, I'd prefer if this list wasn't for help requests at all. At this point, it would make sense to direct those to either a framework-specific list, or even better, stackoverflow. Cheers, Sterl.