OK, I've started working on the new structure, and put it on the "Web" page on the wiki[1]. I've added so far the section on interfaces (Hack and WAI), so there's clearly more to go, but I wanted to see if people like/hate the format before investing a lot of time in it. Michael [1] http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Web On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Thomas Hartman < thomashartman1@googlemail.com> wrote:

I meant full fledged demo car keys-included, when they are available :)

Otherwise yes sample code. Something to give the flavor of what is to come, and also to help the total newbie sense how much community / momentum there is going (and maybe enchant them a bit).

Whether on the main page or somewhere quick to pop up, fine, just wanted to emphasize that this is something I look for first.

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Do you mean sample code, or sample full-fledged apps? Either way, I don't think it make sense to have it on the main page, but trying to have a

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to sample code for each library seems like a very good idea.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Thomas Hartman wrote:

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Personally the first thing I look for is a sample app(s), so I would include this prominently in the thinking somehow.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Michael Snoyman wrote:

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Inspiration for this e-mail comes from a post on reddit[1]. I think it's time as a web development community we work together on

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overall Haskell web brand. We need a well thought out approach to organizing the information we have on the Wiki, and some people to be responsible for keeping it up to date. At the moment, the main web programming page[2] is (in my opinion) horribly disorganized, and presents the wrong information first. We also have a number of smaller pages floating around [3][4][5] that in theory could be subsumed into a more general framework.

The first step I believe is to create a single page that categorizes all of the web projects, gives a brief description, and links to more information. One thing this main page should *not* do is give information like how to create a static binary[6]. So here's a start at the categories I think we should put in: Servers, eg happstack, snap Interfaces, eg Hack, WAI. Perhaps it should be included in servers? Templating: HStringTemplate, Hamlet, HSP HTML combinators: blaze, html, xhtml. Perhaps included in templating? Storage: HDBC, macid Controllers: web-routes, UrlDisp Frameworks: yesod, kibro, turbinado, happstack, snap Misc: authenticate, openid, clientsession Let's try to get a single page that contains as much of a high-level overview as possible. Just imagine if people new to Haskell could go to one page, get up-to-date information and make informed decisions about

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Michael Snoyman wrote: link the their

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choice in tools. Michael

[1] http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/ch4me/first_impressions_serving_sta...

[2] http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Practical_web_programming_in_Haskell [3] http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Web

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