I like these helpers! I am wondering if they can be organized a bit better For the helpers that aren't specific to yesod (Shorten, Time, Gravatar, Search) could that be move to a web-goodies or web-helpers module so it is clear for non-Yesod users that they can use them and that there isn't a yesod dependency? I am also wondering if it is best to remove the Goodies namespace? But for something like Time it might be named something like Display.Time (maybe there is a better convention on hackage already). Thanks, Greg Weber On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Michael Snoyman wrote:

Sounds great. And just to give credit where credit is due, the "fuzzy time" code was taken from Gregory Collins in the first place.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Patrick Brisbin wrote:

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Hey all,

Just wanted to post a quick note here about a package I've started with various little utilities that I find generally useful enough to be used across different yesod sites.

The best explanation is probably by way of example, so here's what it provides so far:

Y.G.Gravatar : fetch a gravatar image for an email address Y.G.Links : concise internal/external link-widgets Y.G.Markdown : a slightly altered version of yesod-markdown Y.G.Paginate : paginate a large list of items Y.G.Search : a type class engine behind search pages Y.G.Shorten : a type class to shorten a variety of... Y.G.Time : prints UTCTime as "one hour ago", etc

That last one was taken from haskellers.com (hope you don't mind Michael).

The package has been on hackage[1] for a bit and the source is on github[2]. Feel free to contribute if you've got your own goodies.

Thanks, Pat

1: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/yesod-goodies 2: https://github.com/pbrisbin/yesod-goodies

-- patrick brisbin

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On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Patrick Brisbin wrote:

On 07/16/11 at 11:12pm, Greg Weber wrote:

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I like these helpers! I am wondering if they can be organized a bit better For the helpers that aren't specific to yesod (Shorten, Time, Gravatar, Search) could that be move to a web-goodies or web-helpers module so it is clear for non-Yesod users that they can use them and that there isn't a yesod dependency?

You're absolutely right. Search isn't even /web/-specific, let alone yesod-specific. It would be good to have a few different packages with only the deps each needs.

Not sure when I'll get the time to do any major restructuring, but I have no qualms leaving it up to someone else to take care of via pull request (if they're so inclined).

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I am also wondering if it is best to remove the Goodies namespace? But for something like Time it might be named something like Display.Time (maybe there is a better convention on hackage already).

I think I had that because I have some pages where I use almost all of these and it was nice to just `import Yesod.Goodies`. I'm open to letting it go though; I see Michael took the "Helpers" namespace out of at least one yesod package recently -- maybe that's a trend to follow.

I have no opinion on presence or absence of Goodies for the moment, but Helpers is targeted for complete removal. I only had it in earlier Yesod versions where everything was in a single package to make it clear what was "core" and what was "extra". That's no longer necessary, and frankly, I always forget whether it's "Helpers" or "Helper" ;) Michael