Re: [xmonad] xmonad{,-contrib} on github

On 27 August 2012 15:54, Carsten Mattner wrote:

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:

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Jochen, I understand (someone does the Githubber's Witnesses thing every couple months or so in the various projects I work with) that git users are generally offended that anyone still uses something other than git, but truly not everyone wants to or needs to switch. At some point you may actually have to accept that other version control systems exist instead of evangelizing that everyone must switch to your One True System.

Seconded. While it's good to bring up alternatives, I don't like evangelizing things at all. Use what works for you. It's good to have a choice. Monoculture is a problem and making github even more central and prominent than it already is is not a good thing for us all. If anything we need to get darcsden and friends enhanced. Having all three dvcs'es used will put more pressure on content transportability between them and help in the long run. I think all three are nurturing each other.

My 5 cents :) I don't think (or didn't seem to me) that anyone is evangelizing. Someone is proposing to move (or complement) with Git and that initiated a (civilized) discussion about why or why not. My personal opinion is that yes: github helps a lot to start using dvcs (I learnt git and hg after github), projects get a lot of visibility and it's "fashion" (moda, mode) right now. On the bad side I agree with you: github is centralizing things a lot. Sometimes I don't even realize that I found myself trusting more in projects that have github vs ones that don't, mainly (imho) because it easier to fork projects, thus keeping them alive. I have started to use xmonad about a couple of months ago. I realized that XMonad (and haskell in general) it's a complex language and not for everyone. I also understand that because of that it feels more like for people that WANTS to mess around a bit, and if want to help it's also people that can learn to use darcs (at least the basic) to contribute (I've been learning because I wanted to do some "improvements" to the xfce contrib module; I'll write an email about that later). I'd propose a "mix" between them... Why don't create an official github mirrror managed by someone responsible? We can also add that in that readme that XMonad currently only accepts patches through darcs/darcsden and maybe some little explanation on how you do it. That way we can gain github visibility without suffering the bad parts and letting our developers continue working with their preferred dvcs :) (Sorry for my english, I'm from Chile :)) Saludos! -- Pablo Olmos de Aguilera Corradini - @PaBLoX http://www.glatelier.org/ http://about.me/pablox/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/pablooda/ Linux User: #456971 - http://counter.li.org/