Hi all, I started experimenting with xmonad as the window manager for XFCE a few days ago (having used the default xfwm4 for several years), so I'm very new to xmonad, Haskell and tiling window managers in general. I use Terminator as my terminal, but i have configured it so I can use it 'quake-style': with xfwm4 it appears over my other windows when I press <F12> and disappears when pressing <F12> again. To simulate this same behavior in xmonad I configured Terminator to always float. This works, but every time I hide and open the Terminator window again it moves 1 pixel to the right and bottom. Initially it is to the left edge of the screen and just below the xfce-panel, but after using it a few times there is a 'gap' between the edge of the screen and terminator and between xfce-panel and terminator. I have no idea what is causing this, any help would be much appreciated :) Here is my xmonad.hs config: import XMonad import XMonad.Config.Xfce import XMonad.Layout.Spacing import XMonad.Hooks.ManageDocks myLayout = spacing 5 $ layoutHook xfceConfig myManageHook = composeAll [ className =? "Terminator" --> doFloat , className =? "Thunderbird" --> doShift "1" , className =? "Firefox" --> doShift "2" , className =? "Spotify" --> doShift "9" , className =? "Banshee" --> doShift "9"] main = xmonad xfceConfig { modMask = mod4Mask , terminal = "xfce4-terminal" , layoutHook = myLayout , manageHook = myManageHook <+> manageHook xfceConfig <+> manageDocks -- uses default too , focusedBorderColor = "#2d5682" , borderWidth = 3 } Thx for any help! Jeroen -- website: http://budts.be/ - twitter: @teranex ___________________________________ Registered Linux User #482240 - GetFirefox.com - ubuntu.com