On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 09:47:34PM -0800, Don Stewart wrote:
Hey all,
xmonad's reaching a fairly stable place featurewise (and stability-wise too).
I came to tiling WM's by way of wmii(2) and loved it for quite a while, but when debian moved to wmii3 I didn't feel like relearning it all... I had developed a workflow and wanted to stick with it. So I went off to IceWM for a while and after using that, and tweaking it, I realised I was trying to make it behave more like a tiling WM. heh. anyway, I relearned wmii, but had a kind of nasty session with them on IRC where I asked how to do something (don't remember what) and basically got told to get lost. And I had even offered to look into coding up a solution to the problem if they could talk to me about it!! Well, anyway, I went looking, always had an interest in Haskell, and here I am.
Now is perhaps a good time to ask people what we can do to improve xmonad further.
* What things annoy you?
lack of how-to's. Sometimes I just need a dumb step-by-step to get me started, then I can figure out the rest myself. That or screenshots with config files well commented to explain how they affect the screen shot would be nice...
* What things do you like?
all of it.
* What things can be done better?
handling of floats. I'm sure it can be done and I jsut haven't figured it out yet, but pushing things into and out of tiling should be easier. (i'm still on .4 so I realise these may be solved). Sometimes I can get things tiled, but can't get them to later float. And its annoying to move to the mouse to manipulate floats -- I'd like to move, resize with keys. Again, I realise these may already be do-able and I just haven't figured it out.
* What things are missing?
again, may already exist: grow or shrink the current window and then revert it to managed mode. sometimes this or that window needs to be a little bit bigger for just a minute and the it can go back to being controlled by the wm. sort of like Mod-L|H and its control of the master pane, the same should be doable for any window. And there needs to be a way to revert to the default size, the modifications made with Mod-L|H can be reverted in one keystroke.
* What things do you miss from ion/wmii/dwm/compiz
tagging. although, now that I'm dual head its not a big deal, on my laptop it would be nice to tag, say, IRC window, to be on every workspace. I realise it might have a different layout on each one...
* What things do you not miss from ion/wmii/dwm/compiz ... :)
annoying devs. A "we are better than everyone else attitude"...
If you've any suggestions for things we can change to make xmonad better fit your workflow or whatever, please shout out!
keep on keepin' on. Great work guys and a testiment to your skills and the power of Haskell. A