Folks, it's clear we have some communication problems going on. Let's all step back and take a deep breath, hm? As seen from my vantage point (which is almost certainly inaccurate because I don't have access to your internal state --- then again, that's kind of the point...): Andrea has been playing with a new layout and decoration framework to address some shortcomings in xmonad. It seemed to me that he was sending patches to the list that he didn't expect to have committed (and at least one of them made me say "wait, I thought he said this was for experimentation, not committing"), and committing it probably left *him* feeling "committed". Since then has been a series of miscommunications because Don and Spencer seem to be looking at it from "Andrea is pushing incompletely-thought-out patches" and Andrea seems to be looking at it as "wait, my experimental patches got committed, now I have no choice but to figure out how to make them work". Can you three sit down (virtually, at least) and make sure you're all on the same page? -- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH