14 Sep
2012
14 Sep
'12
2:38 p.m.
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Hello Michael,
On 14.09.2012 08:18, Michael Norrish wrote:
> On 14/09/12 02:22, Jochen Keil wrote:
>
>>> I should clarify: this was GNOME 3 running in fallback (i.e.
>>> "should be" GNOME 2). But somehow all theming was disabled and
>>> (it being that I had a theme engine configured, and it was
>>> present in the system and if I installed a theme manager I
>>> could deselect/reselect it) theme engines threw errors as if
>>> they couldn't be found. Or, integrating the above, that
>>> something is forcing the theme to something stupid and ugly,
>>> possibly in a misguided attempt to get people to throw
>>> everything (possibly including hardware) out and upgrade to the
>>> Glorious New Shiny.
>
>> I'd like to throw a bit in here. I'm running completely without
>> {gnome,xfce}-session-manager (which does normally all the fancy
>> gtk theme settings). It is possible to configure gtk-{2,3}
>> applications without GNOME or XFCE though.
>
>> For reference I've attached my ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and
>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini files.
>
>> Themes can most likely be found in /usr/share/themes (depends on
>> installation) whereas icon themes normally reside in
>> /usr/share/icons (again, dependent on installation).
>
> Dear Jochen,
>
> My desktop settings call for a gnome-settings-daemon to be run,
> and indeed, ps reveals that one is running. I can also configure
> some things from the System Tools/System Settings/ menu. For
> example, turning on sticky modifiers in the Universal Access/Typing
> screen works. But changing the theme in Appearance doesn't seem to
> do anything at all. Nor can I seem to change the system font
> anywhere.
You can combine manual configuration and a settings daemon. However,
in my experience you are asking for trouble. :)
> I don't have either a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 or ~/.config/gtk-3.0
> directory.
~/.gtkrc-2.0 is a file, like the (previously) attached one.
~/.config/gtk-3.0 is a directory, which you can create using "mkdir
- -p". You should, however, check if ~/.config is your $XDG_CONFIG_HOME.
After that you can place your settings.ini (for configuring gtk-3.0
based apps) there.
> How do I tell which framework my applications are basing themselves
> on?
The methods I can think of are:
* Use ldd `which my-application`
* Check the dependencies with you packet manager
* Judge by the looks.. (meaning you know about the subtle differences
between gtk-2 and gtk-3. :)
> Of the files you attached, should I just create instances of all of
> them?
Depends on what you want/need. .gtkrc-2.0 is for gtk2 and settings.ini
for gtk3.
In addition, Carsten mentioned some graphical helper programs in his
last email. Personally, I prefer the textual method, since I don't
find the documentation I've linked to in my last mail very hard to
understand.
> Thanks for any advice you may have,
My pleasure,
Jochen
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