Re: [xmonad] Fwd: Re: xmonad packages broken in Debian

Because I got interested: Have a look at repology https://repology.org/project/xmonad/versions. Most distributions are out of date. I think this is because GHC 9 introduced a lot of breakage, and going from GHC 8 to 9 is causing these delays. Personally, I really like Arch, and used XMonad on it for many years. Now, I am using NixOS, and that works even better for me. On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 3:36 PM Michael Topp wrote:

-- Yeah, yet they update nonetheless, so you will have a working xmonad, even it's not 'bleeding edge' (but IMHO it's close enough to that).

If you want a kind of 'nightly build' or the very latest features at any cost, then better go make a local install yourself via cabal or stack or whatever (see the wikis), and have some extra fun with additional configuration of the compiler and the installer. ;-)

I personally don't bother about that anymore and just want a stable xmonad along with my system packages and additional haskell apps like pandoc etc., and I am fine with that. I don't mind if it's 0.15, 0.16, or 0.17 for my everyday usage, as long as it's stable and save updating. Haskell stuff versions change very often, you know, and xmonad is just a small part of it, right? Maintaining these for Linux repos must be hell (e.g. the fork Arch32 gave up on that)!

I just don't need to build xmonad stuff from the e.g. AUR or locally with cabal myself anymore – sure, these always worked for some time, but then broke with the next manual update, because one tiny haskell package didn't match because of a missing version or others deps were missing. – So, in other words: you'd learn to stay with your local, non-OS conform haskell/xmonad/... install for longer anyway; and you *will* very soon get 'outdated' then. – But unless you are a haskell developer yourself, permanently wanting to have a newest xmonad is *not* worth the pain!

However, it's your choice. Besides, I doubt, there is any Linux distro at all with a priority on providing the latest xmonad, though it in deed is IMHO the greatest tiling WM in X.

Regards

Am 04.07.22 um 14:32 schrieb Yecine Megdiche:

Hi,

I wouldn't say so... You can check the official xmonad package for arch, it's still on 0.15. https://archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/xmonad/

Cheers

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022, 14:26 Michael Topp, wrote:

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-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [xmonad] xmonad packages broken in Debian Datum: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 12:33:38 +0200 Von: Michael Topp An: Eyal Erez

Hi,

if you're asking what distro maintains xmonad packages (the best), I count on Arch.

They update all official 'xmonad' packages frequently, because their haskell packages themselves also are updated quite often (could be once, twice a week). – Alternatively you can make your own local xmonad build, independent from the distro. And sure, you also have to decide which compiler to use. I highly recommend consulting the wikis from both Arch Linux and Xmonad.

HTH

Am 03.07.22 um 05:07 schrieb Eyal Erez:

Does anyone know why the xmonad packages seem to be broken in Debian?

https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/haskell.html

When I try to install libghc-xmonad-dev and/or libghc-xmonad-contrib-dev, I get an error:

The following packages have unmet dependencies: libghc-xmonad-dev : Depends: libghc-x11-dev-1.9.1-11a5c Depends: libghc-base-dev-4.13.0.0-2f220 but it is not installable Depends: libghc-containers-dev-0.6.2.1-ab1cf but it is not installable Depends: libghc-data-default-dev-0.7.1.1-958e3 Depends: libghc-directory-dev-1.3.6.0-49fdf but it is not installable Depends: libghc-extensible-exceptions-dev-0.1.1.4-10872 but it is not installable Depends: libghc-filepath-dev-1.4.2.1-103b6 but it is not installable Depends: libghc-mtl-dev-2.2.2-7208c but it is not installable Depends: libghc-process-dev-1.6.9.0-88a89 but it is not installable Depends: libghc-setlocale-dev-1.0.0.9-a89d6 but it is not installable Depends: libghc-unix-dev-2.7.2.2-bb33f but it is not installable Depends: libghc-utf8-string-dev-1.0.1.1-866d7 but it is not installable Recommends: libghc-xmonad-contrib-dev but it is not going to be installed

When I tried to enquire in the distros forums (which is a Debian variant) they indicated that the problem is upstream. Does anyone know what the issue is? Which distro to folks use with xmonad? Where is it best supported?

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