Re: [xmonad] How to prefix workspace names with numbers?

Brandon Allbery writes:

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Jacek Generowicz wrote:

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Can you control, say, Apple Mail or Safari with XMonad?

Ah, you're in the X11 uber alles camp.

:-) Not at all. But I am in 'the why run two completely different window managers simultaneously, when it's far more comfortable to be running just the one' camp. But the ease with which your suggestion rolls off the tongue does make for a strong temptation to switch camps.

In that sense they are immiscible, yes; X11 is a second class citizen, it should be a second class citizen, this will never change,

Agreed. But then why bother with XMonad on OS X?

if you don't like it then indeed you must run something else. There are plenty of craptacular X11 desktop environments on Linux if that's what you like.

Eh? No. I like not having to take my fingers off the home row. I like never seeing a single pixel of my desktop background. I like XMonad: As bare (in terms of surrounding desktop environment) as possible. I hate the craptacular desktop environments, and find OS X's effort only marginally less craptacular than the Linux ones (for my personal use: for people who like to point and click, it's lightyears ahead). For my personal use, OS X offered me 3 useful features. 1. I buy any MacBook and open the lid: WiFi works. 2. I plug in an external drive: a backup is made. 3. I close the lid: it goes to sleep; when I open the lid again, it restores the session. No careful picking of the hardware. No downloading of drivers. No enabling of kernel modules. No editing of configuration files. No time spent on choosing between the 248 backup solutions on offer. (Apple Mail is also immensely less sucky than any other (non-Emacs) mail client I have ever had the displeasure of using.) BTW, can anyone recommend a Linux backup solution that Just Works?