Re: [xmonad] override_redirect [was Re: xmonad problem or application stealing keys?]

On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 06:46:40PM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote:

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 16:55, Hans Ekbrand wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 12:17:49PM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 05:08, Hans Ekbrand wrote:

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If I start the application with command line parameters that will make it try to get fullscreen mode, then:

This is symptomatic of a window that is not being managed, i.e. it uses override_redirect.

Is using override_redirect a bug, a bad thing or a feature?

Depends on what you're doing. Environments such as CDE don't support the newer EWMH-based stuff, plus EWMH doesn't really give you a way to get a fully immersive experience (completely "replacing" the local machine with the remote) which many people want.

I see.

Is it meaningful to file a bug report (severity: whishlist) against

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xpdf?

xpdf is a fairly old tool and there are modern alternatives that will play along with modern window managers better. Unfortunately, I also know they don't always work as well; xpdf development has focused on the PDF handling at the expense of the UI, and while many of the newer ones are based on xpdf, they are often slow to incorporate improvements in the PDF engine.

I'm on debian, and tried out the different pdf-viewers available there. I liked zathura best, it's new and has a few bugs, but renders pages fast and works well in "fullscreen" managed by xmonad. zathura is my primary pdf-viewer now. Thanks for your time, Brandon. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net)