Okay, I finally watched the StumpWM video Spencer's been raving about: http://www.archive.org/details/TheStumpWMExperience And he says: <sjanssen> we can only make a screencast if it's cooler than the stumpwm one It is indeed cool. Two reasons, I think: 1. Cool music & voice 2. Overload of information Regarding #1, I see two options: a) Come up with something equally cool. b) Theme from "Bananas in Pajamas" Regarding #2, it was cool to watch, but didn't at all attract me to switch. One of my main attractions to xmonad was that it took me about ten seconds to learn enough where xmonad was usable. After watching the StumpWM vid, I don't even remember how to switch workspaces. I suggest an alternative, in two parts: * Part 1: Spend two minutes going over basic functionality of xmonad. Need to strike a good balance in speed here -- don't bore or overwhelm. Cover keybindings in order of necessity. Something like (alt+): shift-return, j/k, 1/2/3, shift-j/k, shift-1/2/3, return, m. Fullstop. * Pause for five seconds (let it sink in). Let them know that they have now mastered xmonad. * Part 2: Show how easy it is to add contribs (copy from the docs into Config.hs), and compile/restart seamlessly (i.e. layout serialization). Feel free to overwhelm with features at this point, and maybe include a little custom Config hacking. Thoughts? Devin
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Okay, I finally watched the StumpWM video Spencer's been raving about: http://www.archive.org/details/TheStumpWMExperience And he says: <sjanssen> we can only make a screencast if it's cooler than the stumpwm one
It is indeed cool. Two reasons, I think: 1. Cool music & voice 2. Overload of information
Regarding #1, I see two options: a) Come up with something equally cool. b) Theme from "Bananas in Pajamas"
Regarding #2, it was cool to watch, but didn't at all attract me to switch. One of my main attractions to xmonad was that it took me about ten seconds to learn enough where xmonad was usable. After watching the StumpWM vid, I don't even remember how to switch workspaces. I suggest an alternative, in two parts: * Part 1: Spend two minutes going over basic functionality of xmonad. Need to strike a good balance in speed here -- don't bore or overwhelm. Cover keybindings in order of necessity. Something like (alt+): shift-return, j/k, 1/2/3, shift-j/k, shift-1/2/3, return, m. Fullstop.
Yes, just walking through the tour.html should be enough of a script.
* Pause for five seconds (let it sink in). Let them know that they have now mastered xmonad.
Great.
* Part 2: Show how easy it is to add contribs (copy from the docs into Config.hs), and compile/restart seamlessly (i.e. layout serialization). Feel free to overwhelm with features at this point, and maybe include a little custom Config hacking.
Yes, then go nuts. Start hacking Haskell live -- Don
I would add that it would be highly desirable to have a video which actually displays properly and/or can be downloaded in a format which mplayer understands. I couldn't view the StumpWM video correctly in either Windows or Linux, using either Firefox or Internet Explorer (both of which have Flash enabled), and mplayer couldn't play the ogg file either. Mike
Okay, I finally watched the StumpWM video Spencer's been raving about: http://www.archive.org/details/TheStumpWMExperience And he says: <sjanssen> we can only make a screencast if it's cooler than the stumpwm one
It is indeed cool. Two reasons, I think: 1. Cool music & voice 2. Overload of information
Regarding #1, I see two options: a) Come up with something equally cool. b) Theme from "Bananas in Pajamas"
Regarding #2, it was cool to watch, but didn't at all attract me to switch. One of my main attractions to xmonad was that it took me about ten seconds to learn enough where xmonad was usable. After watching the StumpWM vid, I don't even remember how to switch workspaces. I suggest an alternative, in two parts: * Part 1: Spend two minutes going over basic functionality of xmonad. Need to strike a good balance in speed here -- don't bore or overwhelm. Cover keybindings in order of necessity. Something like (alt+): shift-return, j/k, 1/2/3, shift-j/k, shift-1/2/3, return, m. Fullstop. * Pause for five seconds (let it sink in). Let them know that they have now mastered xmonad. * Part 2: Show how easy it is to add contribs (copy from the docs into Config.hs), and compile/restart seamlessly (i.e. layout serialization). Feel free to overwhelm with features at this point, and maybe include a little custom Config hacking.
Thoughts?
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On 2007-10-13 23:55:29 Michael Vanier wrote:
I would add that it would be highly desirable to have a video which actually displays properly and/or can be downloaded in a format which mplayer understands. I couldn't view the StumpWM video correctly in either Windows or Linux, using either Firefox or Internet Explorer (both of which have Flash enabled),
Yes... a bit strange how the conversion to FLV has kind of half worked.
and mplayer couldn't play the ogg file either.
Then your mplayer wasn't compiled with Theora support. Blame your distro :-). Or if you're using Gentoo, add the theora USE flag. /J
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