
I spent the other reading a PhD thesis about time-based releases: http://www.cyrius.com/publications/michlmayr-phd.html All the projects involved seemed to prefer time-based releases, and there was much criticism of releases simply being endlessly dragged out and end-users being hurt by the delays and unclear forecasts. Let us say I was more than a little reminded of Xmonad and #xmonad. The last major release of xmonad was back when George W. Bush was president. There are no outstanding patches in http://darcswatch.nomeata.de/repo_http:__code.haskell.org_XMonadContrib.html or http://darcswatch.nomeata.de/repo_http:__code.haskell.org_xmonad.html Since then, awesome has made something like 10 releases; even dwm has made releases. There are plenty of bugs left in Xmonad, but I doubt many will be squashed given another few months or years. Let's just make the 1.0 release already. -- gwern http://www.gwern.net

Gwern Branwen
There are no outstanding patches in http://darcswatch.nomeata.de/repo_http:__code.haskell.org_XMonadContrib.html or http://darcswatch.nomeata.de/repo_http:__code.haskell.org_xmonad.html Since then, awesome has made something like 10 releases; even dwm has made releases. There are plenty of bugs left in Xmonad, but I doubt many will be squashed given another few months or years.
FYI, there are two patches on the list[1][2] that I sent. The ungrab keyboard patch probably needs more widespread testing, but I've had no issues with it. --Ben [1]http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2011-May/011408.html [2]http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2011-May/011409.html

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Ben Boeckel
FYI, there are two patches on the list[1][2] that I sent. The ungrab keyboard patch probably needs more widespread testing, but I've had no issues with it.
--Ben
[1]http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2011-May/011408.html
I don't see how adding some bindings could really go wrong, so I've pushed that one. As per my usual procedure/threats, I'll push the unbind one in a week if no one objects. -- gwern http://www.gwern.net

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Gwern Branwen
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Ben Boeckel
wrote: FYI, there are two patches on the list[1][2] that I sent. The ungrab keyboard patch probably needs more widespread testing, but I've had no issues with it.
--Ben
[1]http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2011-May/011408.html
I don't see how adding some bindings could really go wrong, so I've pushed that one. As per my usual procedure/threats, I'll push the unbind one in a week if no one objects.
Actually, I'm tired of waiting, so I've pushed the patch now. -- gwern http://www.gwern.net

I'd be in favor of a 1.0 release in the next couple of months.
The system is easily stable enough.
Separately, moving to 6 month time-based releases would be a good step.
-- Don
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Gwern Branwen
I spent the other reading a PhD thesis about time-based releases: http://www.cyrius.com/publications/michlmayr-phd.html
All the projects involved seemed to prefer time-based releases, and there was much criticism of releases simply being endlessly dragged out and end-users being hurt by the delays and unclear forecasts.
Let us say I was more than a little reminded of Xmonad and #xmonad. The last major release of xmonad was back when George W. Bush was president.
There are no outstanding patches in http://darcswatch.nomeata.de/repo_http:__code.haskell.org_XMonadContrib.html or http://darcswatch.nomeata.de/repo_http:__code.haskell.org_xmonad.html Since then, awesome has made something like 10 releases; even dwm has made releases. There are plenty of bugs left in Xmonad, but I doubt many will be squashed given another few months or years.
Let's just make the 1.0 release already.
-- gwern http://www.gwern.net

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Don Stewart
I'd be in favor of a 1.0 release in the next couple of months.
The system is easily stable enough.
Separately, moving to 6 month time-based releases would be a good step.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Spencer Janssen
In the past we've saved all new features for major releases, with these releases fairly far apart. The next major release of xmonad is 1.0, which is potentially months away considering some of the things we have in mind. My hunch is that you'd rather not wait so long.
Why months? Are we still waiting on anything? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net

Let me rephrase: I suggest we release v1.0 no later than 12 weeks from today.
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Don Stewart
wrote: I'd be in favor of a 1.0 release in the next couple of months.
The system is easily stable enough.
Separately, moving to 6 month time-based releases would be a good step.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Spencer Janssen
wrote: In the past we've saved all new features for major releases, with these releases fairly far apart. The next major release of xmonad is 1.0, which is potentially months away considering some of the things we have in mind. My hunch is that you'd rather not wait so long.
Why months? Are we still waiting on anything?
-- gwern http://www.gwern.net

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Don Stewart
Let me rephrase: I suggest we release v1.0 no later than 12 weeks from today.
It has been 7-8 weeks now. Have any of the preparations begun with the website, ANN, and tagging & uploading? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Don Stewart
wrote: Let me rephrase: I suggest we release v1.0 no later than 12 weeks from today.
It has been 7-8 weeks now. Have any of the preparations begun with the website, ANN, and tagging & uploading?
Another week has passed and your suggested release date approaches swiftly; how are the preparations? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Gwern Branwen
wrote: On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Don Stewart
wrote: Let me rephrase: I suggest we release v1.0 no later than 12 weeks from today.
It has been 7-8 weeks now. Have any of the preparations begun with the website, ANN, and tagging & uploading?
Another week has passed and your suggested release date approaches swiftly; how are the preparations?
A full month has passed; any news to report? I am reminded because there have been a number of issues in #xmonad since due to people using 0.9 or older versions... -- gwern http://www.gwern.net

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM,
Quoting Gwern Branwen
: A full month has passed; any news to report? I am reminded because there have been a number of issues in #xmonad since due to people using 0.9 or older versions...
Can we just give Gwern write bit on the repository and the website already? =)
+1 -- Nicolas Pouillard http://nicolaspouillard.fr

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:24:33 +0200, Nicolas Pouillard
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM,
wrote: Quoting Gwern Branwen
: A full month has passed; any news to report? I am reminded because there have been a number of issues in #xmonad since due to people using 0.9 or older versions...
Can we just give Gwern write bit on the repository and the website already? =)
+1
+1 The amount of changes in darcs compared to 0.9 makes the lack of "official" responses to this somewhat frustrating (Often enough one has to tell people something like "Oh, that only works in darcs!").

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Gwern Branwen
wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Gwern Branwen
wrote: On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Don Stewart
wrote: Let me rephrase: I suggest we release v1.0 no later than 12 weeks from today.
It has been 7-8 weeks now. Have any of the preparations begun with the website, ANN, and tagging & uploading?
Another week has passed and your suggested release date approaches swiftly; how are the preparations?
A full month has passed; any news to report? I am reminded because there have been a number of issues in #xmonad since due to people using 0.9 or older versions...
(2/3 weeks later) Incidentally, there won't be any patch to apply for the current HCAR; as far as I can tell, nothing important has changed since the previous HCAR. Nor are there any outstanding patches to discuss for either XMonad-core or XMonad-contrib in Darcswatch. Carry on. -- gwern http://www.gwern.net
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Ben Boeckel
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Don Stewart
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