Thank you for the reply Brandon. Regarding item 1, i really didn't understand much of what you mentioned or how i could test it. Either way when i flip the visible workspaces (focused/non) on my monitors the problem goes away and the avoidstrut works. I googled a bit and i believe "_NET_WORKAREA" has to do with EWMH desktops. The only thing i use is "ewmhDesktopsLogHook" because i gives keyboard focus to chromium when switch to it. Didn't like the whole ewmh functionality cuz it would steal my focus. Item 2: Unforgettably my ~/.xsession-errors was empty on crash. I ran several tests, i think i narrowed down (when) it happens. configuration: xmonad $ withUrgencyHook myUrgentHook --- no urgencyconfig what is visible: dzen bar and logpp on restart effect: kicks out ;; same config what is visible: just logpp is on, bar disappears restart effect: xmoand restart successfully ;; configuration: xmonad $ withUrgencyHookC myUrgentHook myUrgencyConfig --- where myUrgencyConfig = urgencyConfig { suppressWhen = Focused } what is visible: both bar ahd logpp restart effect: kicks out ;; same config: what is visible: logpp restart effect: xmonad is good ;; configuration: xmonad $ withUrgencyHookC myUrgentHook myUrgencyConfig --- where myUrgencyConfig = urgencyConfig {suppressWhen= Visible, remindWhen = (Every (minutes 1.0))} for this one i get kicked out regardless of what is visible Thanks again Dave On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Dave Macias wrote:

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When log into box for the *first time* the "sendMessage ToggleStruts" seems to be on because when i open a terminal or any window it covers the docks.

I have not been able to reproduce this. I do know of a similar issue but it is not likely to produce these symptoms (opening a window corrects it, for example).

The edges of desktop windows (e.g. file manager window) are often covered because older versions don't set _NET_WORKAREA and darcs sets it incorrectly; this should not affect docks.

It is conceivable that the change to avoidStruts to (incorrectly) calculate _NET_WORKAREA caused a problem, but as I have two xmonad instances that do not show the problem you describe, I don't think it broke strut handling significantly.

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One more thing: when i have an urgenthint evoked and i run "xmonad --restart" i get kicked out of xmonad and into my login screen (lxdm) Someone had told on the irc channel that it had to do with the window id and the timer "remindWhen". This happens on both darcs and haskell versions of xmonad.

That was probably me, as I've discussed that with at least two people in #xmonad over the past month. :)

I have never reproduced this one, either, but as I run xmonad under MATE I have never had a reason to configure the UrgencyHook.

It would help if you could arrange for your .xsession-errors to be saved after a crash (log in on a text console or ssh and copy it out of the way) so we could see the error message from the crash.

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