
Hi, I've been using xmonad on top of gnome for some time now. I would really like to drop gnome, and use xmonad straight up. However, gnome has a number of small but significant features that I need to find replacements for: Must Have: 1. System tray: This is where many apps I use (e.g. Pidgin, Skype, Aqualung, Dropbox, etc.) place icons so I can see some status about them, and sometimes interact with them (though mostly just status). 2. Network: This also exists in the system tray but I separated it out because it's really important. This is the ability to see if I am connected or not, and to be able to choose wifi networks to connect to. 3. gnome-do: I use this as an easy way to launch applications. I don't use most of the more complicated features like combining objects and verbs. Nice to Have: 4. High-level view of all desktops and which apps are running on each. 5. Date, time, and whether. 6. System statistics. I have tried both xmonbar and dzen2, but had a hard time getting all the features I needed to work. I was hoping someone can point out what I can use to replace each of these, and throw in some good documentation to boot. I would love to ditch Gnome. Thanks for your help.

Hi, 1) There is a software called trayer. It's a leightwight GTK+ based systray. Easy to use :) Just install and start it with the options you need (see manpage). 2) Well, it will be in trayer. Is that a problem?! 3) How can you launch applications there?! There is a tool called dmenu. If you start that, you can type in the begging of a command and it will show you all applications in the path which match. 4) I don't know if that is possible. Never needed it so I've never searched for it. I think that is useless as hell o0 5+6) xmobar. You can put date, time and some system statistics in it. If you find a CLI tool which reports the whether to the stdout you can even put the wether to xmobar :) Felix On 11. February 2011 - 17:17, Eyal Erez wrote:
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:17:10 -0500 From: Eyal Erez
To: xmonad Subject: [xmonad] Ditching Gnome Hi,
I've been using xmonad on top of gnome for some time now. I would really like to drop gnome, and use xmonad straight up. However, gnome has a number of small but significant features that I need to find replacements for:
Must Have: 1. System tray: This is where many apps I use (e.g. Pidgin, Skype, Aqualung, Dropbox, etc.) place icons so I can see some status about them, and sometimes interact with them (though mostly just status). 2. Network: This also exists in the system tray but I separated it out because it's really important. This is the ability to see if I am connected or not, and to be able to choose wifi networks to connect to. 3. gnome-do: I use this as an easy way to launch applications. I don't use most of the more complicated features like combining objects and verbs.
Nice to Have: 4. High-level view of all desktops and which apps are running on each. 5. Date, time, and whether. 6. System statistics.
I have tried both xmonbar and dzen2, but had a hard time getting all the features I needed to work. I was hoping someone can point out what I can use to replace each of these, and throw in some good documentation to boot.
I would love to ditch Gnome. Thanks for your help.
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On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Felix Blanke wrote: [...]
5+6) xmobar. You can put date, time and some system statistics in it. If you find a CLI tool which reports the whether to the stdout you can even put the wether to xmobar :)
xmobar has a weather plugin, no need for a command line tool. see http://projects.haskell.org/xmobar/ for an actualized list of plugins. (in the not too distant future, xmobar will also support images; there's already an implementation to merge.) hth, jao

3. gnome-do: I use this as an easy way to launch applications. I don't use most of the more complicated features like combining objects and verbs.
ditto on dmenu. its awesome.
Nice to Have: 4. High-level view of all desktops and which apps are running on each.
you can set up the ability to jump to a window which is vaguely similar. http://xmonad.org/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib/XMonad-Prompt-Window.html

Eyal Erez
Hi,
I've been using xmonad on top of gnome for some time now. I would really like to drop gnome, and use xmonad straight up. However, gnome has a number of small but significant features that I need to find replacements for:
Must Have: 1. System tray: This is where many apps I use (e.g. Pidgin, Skype, Aqualung, Dropbox, etc.) place icons so I can see some status about them, and sometimes interact with them (though mostly just status).
I used stalonetray for a while (I no longer have any apps which have a system tray icon, so I don't use it anymore).
2. Network: This also exists in the system tray but I separated it out because it's really important. This is the ability to see if I am connected or not, and to be able to choose wifi networks to connect to.
nm-applet should work with stalonetray.
3. gnome-do: I use this as an easy way to launch applications. I don't use most of the more complicated features like combining objects and verbs.
I use dmenu, but gmrun seems popular as well.
Nice to Have: 4. High-level view of all desktops and which apps are running on each.
Not sure how to get this. GridSelect works well for me (though doesn't show where each app is).
5. Date, time, and whether. 6. System statistics.
xmobar can do these wonderfully.
I have tried both xmonbar and dzen2, but had a hard time getting all the features I needed to work. I was hoping someone can point out what I can use to replace each of these, and throw in some good documentation to boot.
My configuration repository is here[1]. Look under dotfiles/base/X11. --Ben [1]http://git.benboeckel.net/?p=dotfiles.git;a=tree

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3. gnome-do: I use this as an easy way to launch applications. I don't use most of the more complicated features like combining objects and verbs.
XMonad.Prompt.Shell
Nice to Have: 4. High-level view of all desktops and which apps are running on each.
XMonad.Actions.GridSelect might be of interest.
5. Date, time, and whether.
FWIW it's easy to script "telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com 3000" and get current weather.
6. System statistics.
Depending on the statistics it should be easy to pull stuff out of /proc (Linux) or sysctl (Linux, *BSD) and feed it to dzen2/xmobar. - -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] allbery.b@gmail.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] kf8nh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1V63EACgkQIn7hlCsL25VB8ACffa/TfkNcWZjljBslmV9wZhwB cRMAoJisxdnHSf/dFXP3ziDGdAQWSrBX =BYPx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Ben Boeckel
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Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
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Eyal Erez
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Felix Blanke
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Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
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Sean Allen