Someone replied to me in Russian about his experience with Safari and my Echo demo page that I fixed for Opera. Here is the rough translation: ======= I have just downloaded a fresh alpha of Safari. I could see the input form, but no Roman numerals, only Arabic. Safari now has got a debugger! The debug window popped up (without any explanations), first at the line 214 (from the beginning of the file), then at the line 150 (after "Continue" was pressed) and then an Arabic numeral appeared, and it "calmed down". ======= The original of the Russian discussion is here: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_lambda/28333.html Line 214 is within exprEval. Line 150 is within the HSFun constructor: var res = this._b.apply (this,this._a); I have never seen Safari debugger popups and have little idea what amount of information they bring up (but I'm guessing, close to none). I have posted my question on the comp.lang.javascript newsgroup last night but haven't seen any meaningful response yet. Anyway, I am going to work on Javascript code size optimizations, so after I am done we may try to retest it on Safari and see if anything changes. -- Dimitry Golubovsky Anywhere on the Web