On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 04:27:51PM +0000, Jaro Reinders via ghc-devs wrote:
On 7/29/26 17:21, Tom Ellis via ghc-devs 'ghc-devs at haskell.org' wrote:
"outsized relative to other life activities that the general population accepts as normal",
I think you should clarify which "general population" you mean. If you mean the general world population, I think you might be surprised with how little emissions are normal.
Some data: in 2024 total global emissions per capita were 4.73 tonnes (https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions). Divide that by 366 and by 24 to get 538 gCO2/h, so I think the 228 gCO2/h is quite significant if you consider the "general population". Not to mention that we have collectively agreed to bring down all our emissions to zero.
Before addressing the issues raised in your latest message, I should first check (and probably should have checked earlier) whether what you've shared in this thread is to make a case about what the GHC LLM policy should be, or whether you're sharing information that you consider of general importance, that informs your behaviour and perspective as a world citizen (and in the hope that others might consider it of importance too), but only doing so in this thread because it happened to come up in the discussion. If the latter then I fear my response will end up with us going down an off-topic rabbit hole (albeit an interesting and important one!) but not actually contributing much insight to the topic at hand. Tom