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Cabal, Time & GHC 6.10.2
by Dominic Steinitz 24 May '09

24 May '09

I get > dom@linux-6ofq:~/asn1> runghc Setup.hs configure > Configuring PER-0.0.20... > Setup.hs: At least the following dependencies are missing: > time -any && -any but I have time > dom@linux-6ofq:~/asn1> ghc-pkg list | grep time > old-locale-1.0.0.1, old-time-1.0.0.2, packedstring-0.1.0.1, > time-1.1.2.4 I think I can see why cabal isn't finding it: > ghc-pkg dump --global | grep time-1.1.2.4 finds nothing and I believe that is what cabal uses to find things. What's not clear is what I do to fix things. Go back to 6.10.1? Thanks, Dominic. > dom@linux-6ofq:~/asn1> ghc --version > The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 6.10.2 > dom@linux-6ofq:~/asn1> ghc-pkg --version > GHC package manager version 6.10.2 Here's my .cabal file. > Name: PER > Version: 0.0.20 > License: BSD3 > Author: Dominic Steinitz > Maintainer: dominic.steinitz(a)blueyonder.co.uk > Copyright: Dominic Steinitz 2003 - 2009 > Stability: Alpha > Category: Language > Homepage: http://www.haskell.org/asn1 > Synopsis: ASN.1 PER support for Haskell > Description: A formal and executable specification of the Packed Encoding Rules (PER) > for ASN.1 > build-depends: binary-strict == 0.4.2, > bytestring, > mtl, > containers, > time, > pretty, > base > build-type: custom > > Exposed-Modules: Language.ASN1.PER.Integer > Language.ASN1.PER.GenerateC > > Executable: PERTest > Main-Is: PERTest.hs

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Re: Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: A problem with par and modules boundaries...
by Mario Blažević 24 May '09

24 May '09

On Sat 23/05/09 2:51 PM , Duncan Coutts duncan.coutts(a)worc.ox.ac.uk sent: > On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:31 -0400, Mario Blažević wrote: > ... >> So the function is not strict, and I don't understand >> why GHC should evaluate the arguments before the call. > > Right, it's lazy in the first and strict in the second argument. As far > as I can see we have no evidence that is is evaluating anything before > the call. When I look at the Core definition of `test', it begins with \ (n1axl::integer:GHCziIntegerziInternals.Integer) (n2axn::integer:GHCziIntegerziInternals.Integer) -> %let as1sU :: integer:GHCziIntegerziInternals.Integer = base:DataziList.prod1 (main:Main.factors2 (base:DataziList.prod1 (base:GHCziNum.upzulist main:Main.lvl main:Main.lvl n1axl) base:DataziList.lvl1)) base:DataziList.lvl1 %in %case integer:GHCziIntegerziInternals.Integer (ghczmprim:GHCziPrim.parzh @ integer:GHCziIntegerziInternals.Integer as1sU) %of (dsapq::ghczmprim:GHCziPrim.Intzh) To my untrained eyes, this looks like it's evaluating > product $ factors $ product [1..n1]) which is the first argument to `parallelize'. I assume that %case in Core evaluates the argument to WHNF, just like case in Haskell. Then again, I could be completely misinterpreting what Core is, because I can't find any call to `parallelize' before or after that. It appears to be inlined in Core, regardless of whether the pragma > {-# INLINE parallelize #-} is there or not. Actually, I can't see any effect of that pragma in the core files whatsoever, but it certainly has effect on run time. >> Does anybody know of a pragma or another way to make a >> function *non-strict* even if it does always evaluate its argument? >> In other words, is there a way to selectively disable the strictness >> optimization? > > Yes, which is what pseq and par already do. > > If there's a bug, we need to reproduce it and report it. I cannot > reproduce it. If you mean that you can't reproduce anything that's contrary to the specification, that's not saying much: there are practically no guarantees on what `par' is supposed to accomplish. If you mean you can't reproduce anything you wouldn't expect, pray explain what is going on, because everybody else seems to be surprised. Or do you mean to say that *your* installation of GHC behaves the same when the function `parallelize' is defined in the same module and when it's imported?

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ANN: hledger 0.5 released
by Simon Michael 24 May '09

24 May '09

I'm pleased to announce the hledger 0.5 release on hackage. hledger is a (mostly) text-mode double-entry accounting tool that generates precise activity and balance reports from a plain text journal file. It is a partial clone, in haskell, of John Wiegley's excellent ledger. hledger implements a subset of ledger's commands and options, and also provides some new ones. For basic use you can use hledger and ledger pretty much interchangeably on the same data files. For screenshots, live demo, docs etc. see http://hledger.org . Release notes are at http://hledger.org/NEWS , and below. To install: cabal install hledger [-fvty] [-fhapps]. I'd like to hear feedback, especially if you are having trouble getting started. Happy tracking! - Simon (sm on #ledger) 2009/05/23 hledger 0.5 released ------------------------------- Changes: * the vty flag is disabled by default again, to ease installation on windows * use ledger 3 terminology: a ledger contains transactions which contain postings * new "add" command prompts for transactions interactively and adds them to the ledger * new "convert" command transforms bank CSV exports to ledger format, with rule-based cleanup * new "histogram" command shows transaction counts per day or other reporting interval * most commands now work properly with UTF8-encoded text (Sergey Astanin) * invoking as "hours" is now less different: it just uses your timelog, not your ledger * --quarterly/-Q option summarises by quarter * --uncleared/-U option looks only at uncleared transactions * be more accurate about checking balanced amounts, don't rely on display precision * enforce balancing for bracketed virtual postings * fix bug in eliding of posting amounts * don't show trailing spaces on amountless postings * parse null input as an empty ledger * don't treat comments as part of transaction descriptions * require some postings in ledger transactions * require a non-empty description in ledger transactions * don't fail when matching an empty pattern, as in "not:" * make the web server handle the null path * code, api and documentation updates * add a contributor agreement/list Release contributors: * Simon Michael * Sergey Astanin Release stats: * Days since last release: 51 * Committers: 2 * Commits: 101 * Lines of non-test code: 2795 * Known errors: 0 * Tests: 76 * Performance: || hledger-0.4 | hledger-0.5 | ledger =========================++=============+=============+======= -f sample.ledger balance || 0.01 | 0.01 | 0.06 -f 1000.ledger balance || 1.33 | 1.46 | 0.53 -f 10000.ledger balance || 15.28 | 16.35 | 4.67

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haddock could be a pretty-printer?
by Maurício 23 May '09

23 May '09

Hi, The new version of haddock makes use of GHC parser. How much of effort would take to make haddock generate pretty-print of the source code itself, including haddock documentation (although probably loosing other comments)? Maybe even an html version that documentation could point to? Thanks, Maurício

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: A problem with par and modules boundaries...
by Mario Blažević 23 May '09

23 May '09

On Sat 23/05/09 4:15 PM , Alexander Dunlap alexander.dunlap(a)gmail.com sent: >>> Does anybody know of a pragma or another way to make a >>> function *non-strict* even if it does always evaluate its >>> argument? In other words, is there a way to >>> selectively disable the strictness optimization? >> >> parallelize a b | False = (undefined, undefined) >> | otherwise = a `par` (b `pseq` (a, b)) >> >> might do, unless strictness analysis is smart enough to >> know that the False guard is always, well, False. >> _______________________________________________ > > GHC.Prim.lazy? It's GHC.Exts.lazy nowadays, and it doesn't have any effect. Neither does the `| False' guard. The only way I found to disable the eager argument evaluation is to pass them in as functions: > parallelize :: Num t => (t -> a) -> (t -> b) -> (a, b) > parallelize a b = let a' = a 1 > b' = b 1 > in (a' `par` (b' `pseq` (a', b'))) Then it can be imported and called like this: > test n1 n2 = let (p1, p2) = parallelize > (\n0-> product $ factors $ product [n0..n1]) > (\n0-> product $ factors $ product [n0..n2]) This solution is incredibly fragile. If the declared type of parallelize is modified by replacing t by Integer, the evaluation becomes eager again. Also, the argument functions can't simply take () for argument which would make this solution reasonable. If this is all the strictness optimizer's fault, I'm awed by how difficult it is to trick it into not doing its job.

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Pattern match question in HAXML code
by Max Cantor 23 May '09

23 May '09

Going through the instances for HTypeable (http://www.haskell.org/HaXml/HaXml/src/Text/XML/HaXml/TypeMapping.html#toHT… ) I saw the following instance for Either a b. My question is, why doesn't the pattern match in the where clause always fail? If (Left x) = m does not fail, doesn't that imply that m is a Left x and therefore the (Right y) = m should fail? thanks, max instance (HTypeable a, HTypeable b) => HTypeable (Either a b) where toHType m = Defined "Either" [hx, hy] [ Constr "Left" [hx] [hx] {-Nothing-} , Constr "Right" [hy] [hy] {-Nothing-}] where (Left x) = m (Right y) = m hx = toHType x hy = toHType y

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Haskell Weekly News: Issue 119 - May 23, 2009
by Brent Yorgey 23 May '09

23 May '09

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haskell Weekly News http://sequence.complete.org/hwn/20090523 Issue 119 - May 23, 2009 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to issue 119 of HWN, a newsletter covering developments in the [1]Haskell community. Announcements GHC porting works again. Ian Lynagh [2]announced that the [3]instructions for porting GHC to a new architecture now work again with the HEAD. If you get stuck when trying to do a port, feel free to ask on cvs-ghc at haskell.org or in #ghc on freenode. 6.10.4 plans. Ian Lynagh [4]announced plans for a 6.10.4 bugfix release of GHC. If you know of any bugs that you think should be looked into for 6.10.4, please let the development team know. The Timber compiler 1.0.3. Johan Nordlander [5]announced the release of version 1.0.3 of the Timber compiler. Timber is a modern language for building event-driven systems, based around the notion of reactive objects. It is also a purely functional language derived from Haskell, although with a strict evaluation semantics. 1.0.3 is a bug fix release, paving the way for future feature releases. mathlink-2.0.0.3. Tracy Wadleigh [6]announced the release of [7]mathlink, a library for writing Mathematica packages in Haskell. One simply writes some functions of type (MLGet a, MLPut b) => a -> IO b and provides a package specification in a simple DSL; the result is a program that exposes functions that can be called from Mathematica. text 0.2, fast and comprehensive Unicode support using stream fusion. Bryan O'Sullivan [8]announced the availability of [9]text 0.2, an efficient Unicode text library that uses stream fusion. New and notable in this release is support for lazy, chunked text, so you can process text files far larger than memory using a small footprint. Haskell Hackathon in Philadelphia. Brent Yorgey [10]announced Hac phi, a Haskell hackathon to be held in Philadelphia in July. Check out the [11]wiki page and add your name if you are interested in attending! More details to follow soon. feed2twitter 0.2 & hackage2twitter 0.2.1. Tom Lokhorst [12]announced the first release of [13]feed2twitter, a library for sending posts from a news feed to Twitter. EsotericBot 0.0.1. spoon [14]announced the release of [15]Esotericbot, a sophisticated, lightweight IRC bot, written in Haskell. atom 0.0.4. Tom Hawkins [16]announced a new release of [17]atom; this version adds an array datatype (A a). Hieroglyph-2.21 and buster, buster-gtk, and buster-network-2.0. Jeff Heard [18]announced new releases of [19]Hieroglyph, [20]buster, [21]buster-gtk, and [22]buster-network, with tons of changes; read Jeff's original announcement for details. TxtSushi 0.1. Keith Sheppard [23]announced the first version of [24]TxtSushi, a collection of command line utilities for processing tab-delimited and CSV files. It includes a utility for doing SQL SELECTs on flat files. Discussion Should exhaustiveness testing be on by default? Don Stewart started a [25]discussion, prompted by a [26]recent blog post, on whether coverage checking should be on by default, and other issues relating to compiler warnings and coding style. Proposal on the platform API policy question. Duncan Coutts [27]proposed a general policy for Haskell Platform release cycles and versioning, based on input from previous discussions. the problem of design by negation. Michael Mossey began a [28]discussion on software design philosophies. "Design by negation" considered harmful? Haskell in 3 Slides. John Van Enk [29]asked for ideas on a 3 to 4 slide introduction to Haskell. What do YOU think should be on those slides? Blog noise [30]Haskell news from the [31]blogosphere. Blog posts from people new to the Haskell community are marked with >>>, be sure to welcome them! * Bryan O'Sullivan: [32]Streaming Unicode support for Haskell: text 0.2. * Alex McLean: [33]Haskell hack. Music generation in Haskell. * Well-Typed.Com: [34]Building plugins as Haskell shared libs. A sneak preview of building Haskell shared libraries on Linux. * LHC Team: [35]New release: LHC 0.8. * Mark Wassell: [36]Grapefruit And Glade. * Conal Elliott: [37]The C language is purely functional. * >>> Will Donnelly: [38]Haskell: A Pretty Nice Language. * FP-Syd: [39]Sydney FP Group: FP-Syd #14.. * Dan Piponi (sigfpe): [40]Trace Diagrams with Monads. Quotes of the Week * roconnor: Damn it, I don't know how to make this as slow as python. * koeien: Let's register it [monomorphismrestriction.com] to prevent it from being used ;) * Elly: Rule 1 of malloc is the same as rule 1 of air travel: "Attempt at all costs to keep your number of landings equal to your number of takeoffs." * monochrom: I was trying to design a sensible language... then I downloaded ghc. * conal: The C ADT is implemented simply as String (or char *, for you type theorists, using a notation from Kleene) * Will Donnelly: monads are okay after a bit (though I'm still a little suspicious of them) About the Haskell Weekly News New editions are posted to [41]the Haskell mailing list as well as to [42]the Haskell Sequence and [43]Planet Haskell. [44]RSS is also available, and headlines appear on [45]haskell.org. To help create new editions of this newsletter, please see the information on [46]how to contribute. Send stories to byorgey at cis dot upenn dot edu. 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ICFP Participation
by Matthias Görgens 23 May '09

23 May '09

Hello, Please pardon my naive question: Is there a way to sign on for ICFP 09? The homepage (http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~gmh/icfp09.html) only seems to mention how to submit papers. Is there a way to attend as a mere participant? Thanks, Matthias.

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Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: A problem with par and modules boundaries...
by Mario Blažević 23 May '09

23 May '09

>>> You could probably see exactly what's happening in >>> more detail by going through the Core output. >> >> Thank you, this advice helped. The Core output indicates >> that function `test' evaluates the arguments to >> `parallelize' before it calls it. In other words, the >> call to `parallelize' is optimized as a strict function >> call -- which it is. The problem is that this >> optimization evaluates the arguments sequentially. >> Compiling with optimizations turned off regains the >> parallel execution. >> >> I guess I will report this as a GHC bug. Or is it a >> feature request? > > As Duncan suggessted, try with GHC head (grab a snapshot). `par` et al > are much improved. I already have, with the snapshot from 21st of April. It behaves the same as 6.8.2, except it runs for twice as long. I'd like to take back a part of what I said before, though: `parallelize' should be strict only in its second argument. Its strictness in the first argument should be the same as with `par`. Even though `parallelize x y' always evaluates both x and y, the following test works fine with optimizations even if `parallelize' is imported: main = putStrLn (snd $ parallelize undefined "Hello, World!") So the function is not strict, and I don't understand why GHC should evaluate the arguments before the call. Does anybody know of a pragma or another way to make a function *non-strict* even if it does always evaluate its argument? In other words, is there a way to selectively disable the strictness optimization?

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Re: Extensible Exceptions and IO
by Alexander Dunlap 23 May '09

23 May '09

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Ian Lynagh <igloo(a)earth.li> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0700, Alexander Dunlap wrote: >> In the extensible exceptions paper[1], which I believe is the guide >> behind the current Control.Exception in GHC 6.10, a SomeIOException >> type is discussed so that it would be possible to use the nice >> interface for IOExceptions. Is this implemented anywhere? In the GHC >> libraries, all I see is the old interface just plugged into a simple >> wrapper, so you have to use guard . isDoesNotExistError (for example) >> with catchJust to catch a certain type of exception. If not, are there >> any plans to implement it? > > I'm not aware of anyone currently working on putting the various core > libs' exceptions into a sensible hierarchy, but it would be great if > someone was to do so! > > I'd suggest that the best way to do this would be initially a > combination of discussions on the mailing list (if anything is > non-obvious) and building a design (and, if appropriate, rationale) on a > wiki page, and ending with a library submissions proposal once you have > a design worked out: > > http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library_submissions > > > Thanks > Ian > > I'm moving this from the GHC users' mailing list to the haskell-cafe mailing list because I think the discussion probably involves the entire Haskell community. Hi all, We have this new exception hierarchy in GHC base-4 and a lot of new machinery for dealing with it. Other libraries also seem to be springing up to provide alternative methods of dealing with these new exceptions. However, I have found that in most of my programming, the new exception functionality cannot be used to its fullest extent because the exceptions in the core libraries are not part of any sensible "tree" of exceptions, even though having this giant exception tree seems to be one of the premises of the new exception library. For example, there is an ArithException type in Control.Exception which records various arithmetic exceptions. However, there are two problems: (1) in order to fit in with the extensible exceptions theme, the type ought to be called SomeArithException and all of the types of ArithExceptions ought to be sub-exceptions of it, and (2) to my knowledge, this exception type doesn't seem to be thrown by anything in the base libraries. I think the biggest culprit is the IOException type, which also happens to be probably the most commonly-used exception type, since exceptions from IOException cannot really be anticipated and prevented. The current design of IOException is as follows. There is an abstract type called IOException. This can be queried with functions like isDoesNotExistError (which determines if the exception is because a file did not exist). Furthermore, to make an IOException, one has to use the mkIOError function, which takes a value of type IOErrorType, which is again an abstract type. I believe the reason for the abstract types is to allow implementations to extend the range of exceptions. Unfortunately, this has even more problems. For example, the error returned by using readFile on a directory cannot be determined using any Haskell98 function, meaning that code that wants to detect this error cannot be portable to compilers that don't have the new InappropriateType IO exception. The biggest problem with the current design of IOException, however, is that it doesn't play very nicely with the main hierarchy. Like with ArithExceptions, there should be a SomeIOException type. http://www.haskell.org/~simonmar/papers/ext-exceptions.pdf, which was the original paper on extensible exceptions, recommends having a class for IOExceptions that would allow us to get standard information from any specific IOException. I asked the GHC-users mailing list about this and Ian Lynagh recommended starting a discussion about how to put all of the core library exceptions into a sensible hierarchy. I think the goals here ought to be to make our new hierarchy as backward-compatible as possible. In particular, since many programs rely on the isWhateverError functionality, it would be nice to keep these in place. For IOExceptions, I think it would be nice to have a more multi-layered hierarchy than just SomeIOException and its subtypes. For example, I could see a hierarchy for IOExceptions looking something like this: SomeIOException - SomeCouldNotOpenException - AlreadyExists, NoSuchThing, PermissionDenied, InappropriateType - SomeResourceException - ResourceBusy, ResourceExhausted, ResourceVanished etc. I'm not all that familiar with the various exceptions and how they are used, so I'm not really able to propose a complete hierarchy for all the exceptions. I guess the purpose of this email was just to start off a discussion about what our exception hierarchy ought to look like. Thanks for reading this (admittedly long) message. Alex

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