Hey Tom, Thanks for clarifying the money position.
Serokell does not financially benefit from this initiative.
It's probably worth making this clear in the terms of service or otherwise (as Georgi hinted at). But I would also note that clearly Serokell want their name attached to it; so they definitely do benefit implicitly from the endorsement. I do still think it's a shame that the HF is attempting to adopt this as a somehow "formal" "ability in Haskell measure"; to my simple mind this is a very large overstep for a language's foundation to make; i.e. it should be taken *very* seriously, if HF somehow represents "Haskell" officially. I.e. my only personal course of action is just to assume that it, in fact, does not represent all our interests; which, of course, you will not be surprised, to learn is my true feeling :) But myself aside, I do think some care needs to be taken; i.e. to explain clearly why the HF hasn't chosen to select this as "one among many options"; i.e. just link to it, compared to making it "the" url for certification for Haskell; and likewise writing the content to imply that. -- Noon On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 13:20, Tom Ellis < tom-lists-haskell-cafe-2023@jaguarpaw.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 07:01:18AM +0100, Noon van der Silk wrote:
It's probably worth being clear on any potential conflict of interest here with this being an seemingly "official" haskell-foundation sponsored certification and whether or not Serokell is a funder of the HF and/or has seats on the board.
Hello Noon,
The HF will hold any proceeds gained from the certification program and put them back into funding the program. Serokell does not financially benefit from this initiative.
Regarding board members, you can see who they are on the HF website, and that no employee of Serokell has a board seat (nor has any ever):
https://haskell.foundation/who-we-are/
Regarding donors, you can see a list of donors on the HF website front page, and that Serokell does not appear:
(I don't actually know if that comprises literally all the donors nor all historical donors, but as far as I am aware, Serokell is not one nor has ever been.)
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