
Some day, we're going to need a short, catchy name for Cabal packages. Let's call them cabbages. -- Jason Dusek

I also agree. Hackage should also be renamed to something appropriate. The Cabbage Patch? On Sep 20, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Jason Dusek
wrote: Some day, we're going to need a short, catchy name for Cabal packages. Let's call them cabbages.
+1
Yes, let's.
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On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Joe Fredette
The Cabbage Patch?
'Patch' is pretty well defined, so using it here seems somewhat awkward and confused to me. Plus, I don't think we really want to sound childish, and the first thing I think of is the cabbage patch kid dolls. The original idea, cabbage, doesn't seem silly to me. Jeff Wheeler

jeff:
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Joe Fredette
wrote: The Cabbage Patch?
'Patch' is pretty well defined, so using it here seems somewhat awkward and confused to me.
Plus, I don't think we really want to sound childish, and the first thing I think of is the cabbage patch kid dolls. The original idea, cabbage, doesn't seem silly to me.
Cabbage patches would be tweaks and fixes you upload to Hackage. Hackage is more of a cabbage farm. -- Don

File extension ideas: .choux -- My favorite. .kohl -- Less characters. .cbz -- More conventional. .cbg.gz, .cbg.bz2 -- Allows one to be specific about -- compression. The last one can be extended to the other ones, at the cost of a few characters. -- Jason Dusek

On 20 Sep 2009, at 23:11, Jason Dusek wrote:
Some day, we're going to need a short, catchy name for Cabal packages. Let's call them cabbages.
Not that this is a good reason to change your mind, but some sufficiently ancient Brits may remember a televisual entertainment programme in which kids competed to win prizes by answering questions (one prize per answer) until their arms could no longer contain the prizes and they dropped one. The prize for an incorrect answer was, of course, a cabbage (large, hard to hold on to, symbolic of failed social mobility). Probably the people who associate cabbages with error in this way are few in number. Perhaps larger in number are those who simply fear vegetables, or have unpleasant memories of being made to eat sulphurous overboiled cabbage on pain of no pudding. Cabbage is regarded by many as a punishment, compared to, say, an enviably juicy sheep. It's a mark of inability to afford the aforementioned sheep, or of a kind of holier-than-thou middle class faux-puritanism with pretentions to virtue. +1 Conor

Conor McBride
On 20 Sep 2009, at 23:11, Jason Dusek wrote:
Some day, we're going to need a short, catchy name for Cabal packages. Let's call them cabbages.
Not that this is a good reason to change your mind, but some sufficiently ancient Brits may remember a televisual
Speaking of ancient Brits, the Finns used to call Britain cabbage-land, in case that alters anyone's opinion. -- Jón Fairbairn Jon.Fairbairn@cl.cam.ac.uk http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2009-01-31)

Hi Jón On 21 Sep 2009, at 10:23, Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Conor McBride
writes: On 20 Sep 2009, at 23:11, Jason Dusek wrote:
Some day, we're going to need a short, catchy name for Cabal packages. Let's call them cabbages.
Not that this is a good reason to change your mind, but some sufficiently ancient Brits may remember a televisual
Speaking of ancient Brits, the Finns used to call Britain cabbage-land, in case that alters anyone's opinion.
It's always somewhere else, isn't it? Somehow, a vision of Michael Palin bursting into the RAF officers' mess shouting "cabbage crates over the briny!" springs to mind. When faced with blank incomprehension and a request to speak English, he replies "but I've got to use banter!". Seems that goes for us too. TTFN Conor

Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Conor McBride
writes: On 20 Sep 2009, at 23:11, Jason Dusek wrote:
Some day, we're going to need a short, catchy name for Cabal packages. Let's call them cabbages. Not that this is a good reason to change your mind, but some sufficiently ancient Brits may remember a televisual
Speaking of ancient Brits, the Finns used to call Britain cabbage-land, in case that alters anyone's opinion.
Speaking of ambiguities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_%28disambiguation%29 CABG is especially interesting :) //Stephan -- Früher hieß es ja: Ich denke, also bin ich. Heute weiß man: Es geht auch so. - Dieter Nuhr

2009/09/21 Conor McBride
...or have unpleasant memories of being made to eat sulphurous overboiled cabbage on pain of no pudding.
Well, maybe the Cabal cabbages are Napa cabbages or red cabbages or pickled cabbages or Savoy cabbages? It is too bad, really, that a wholesome vegetable -- good raw or pickled or in little salady things like coleslaw -- finds itself used as a disincentive. -- Jason Dusek

Hi Jason On 22 Sep 2009, at 10:04, Jason Dusek wrote:
2009/09/21 Conor McBride
: ...or have unpleasant memories of being made to eat sulphurous overboiled cabbage on pain of no pudding.
Well, maybe the Cabal cabbages are Napa cabbages or red cabbages or pickled cabbages or Savoy cabbages?
Mmm. Kimchi!
It is too bad, really, that a wholesome vegetable -- good raw or pickled or in little salady things like coleslaw -- finds itself used as a disincentive.
I quite agree. Despite the best efforts of school kitchens, I remain stubbornly enthusiastic for the humble cabbage. In fact, I rather think I'll fetch one for my dinner. I'm just suggesting that the marketing department consider the variety of connotations and suggestions the term evokes before adopting it: legendary backfirings abound (the Spanish sales failure of a car called the "nova", for example). And what disturbs me is just how scarily spot-on the wholesome vegetable metaphor turns out to be. The time has come... Conor

2009/9/22 Conor McBride
I'm just suggesting that the marketing department consider the variety of connotations and suggestions the term evokes before adopting it: legendary backfirings abound (the Spanish sales failure of a car called the "nova", for example).
Its not important but the nova story really is legendary: http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

Hi On 22 Sep 2009, at 15:25, D. Manning wrote:
2009/9/22 Conor McBride
I'm just suggesting that the marketing department consider the variety of connotations and suggestions the term evokes before adopting it: legendary backfirings abound (the Spanish sales failure of a car called the "nova", for example). Its not important but the nova story really is legendary: http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
I chose my words with caution. Cheers Conor
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Conor McBride
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D. Manning
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david48
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Don Stewart
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Jason Dusek
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Jeff Wheeler
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Joe Fredette
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Jon Fairbairn
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Stephan Friedrichs