New: A French translation of Learn You A Haskell for Great Good!

Hello everyone, I've decided to translate the famous Learn You a Haskell for Great Good in French a few weeks ago, and I'm pleased to share it with you all today! Well, especially with the French-speaking community, but I guess everyone should be aware of its existence, in case you ever encounter a French newbie and want to redirect him to some French resources. So here it is: http://lyah.haskell.fr You will also notice that I did register a domain name for this, and will try to provide other information on Haskell in French at the same place. For instance, I created a wiki which contains basic information, available here: http://haskell.fr All French-speaking Haskell enthusiasts (Haskelletors? :D) are welcome to participate in this wiki in any way they can think of. I doubt this will be as useful as the HaskellWiki, but if we can have a few introductions to some subjects in French, pointing to more comprehensive resources in English, I guess it'll be good enough. Oh, I also created the less-inspired logo ever out of the usual Haskell logo! :) Any feedback on whether these are good ideas or not, and what could be done better, would be greatly appreciated. Big thanks to Miran Lipovača for writing the original LYAH (well, except for the jokes that were hard to translate/adapt!), and to the few people on #haskell-fr for somehow deciding me to actually do this. Also, thanks to my anonymous proof-reader, who did a great job I believe! And since Brent allowed me to, French monads are now officially like crêpes! - Valentin "Ptival" Robert

Nice initiative, Valentin !
However, even if I'm french I'm gonna need a little help with the monads
being like crêpes...
2011/9/21 Valentin ROBERT
Hello everyone,
I've decided to translate the famous Learn You a Haskell for Great Good in French a few weeks ago, and I'm pleased to share it with you all today! Well, especially with the French-speaking community, but I guess everyone should be aware of its existence, in case you ever encounter a French newbie and want to redirect him to some French resources. So here it is:
You will also notice that I did register a domain name for this, and will try to provide other information on Haskell in French at the same place. For instance, I created a wiki which contains basic information, available here:
All French-speaking Haskell enthusiasts (Haskelletors? :D) are welcome to participate in this wiki in any way they can think of. I doubt this will be as useful as the HaskellWiki, but if we can have a few introductions to some subjects in French, pointing to more comprehensive resources in English, I guess it'll be good enough.
Oh, I also created the less-inspired logo ever out of the usual Haskell logo! :)
Any feedback on whether these are good ideas or not, and what could be done better, would be greatly appreciated.
Big thanks to Miran Lipovača for writing the original LYAH (well, except for the jokes that were hard to translate/adapt!), and to the few people on #haskell-fr for somehow deciding me to actually do this. Also, thanks to my anonymous proof-reader, who did a great job I believe! And since Brent allowed me to, French monads are now officially like crêpes!
- Valentin "Ptival" Robert
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 00:00:26 +0200, Valentin ROBERT wrote:
Excellent
Since you're starting from fresh, it would be great if the wiki were running Gitit instead of Mediawiki. Advantages: - Markdown is used in many places - You can have a Git/Darcs repository behind this See http://wiki.darcs.net for an example of this in action. Would be great if Haskell wiki were also running Gitit but that's a potentially a tougher nut to crack -- Eric Kow http://erickow.com

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 16:01, Eric Y. Kow
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 00:00:26 +0200, Valentin ROBERT wrote:
Excellent
On this particular topic, someone asked me why I did not reuse the FR part of Haskell wiki. That's a reasonable question in my opinion. We have this page: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Fr/Haskell Now, is it feasible, and okay, to create a French sub-wiki inside Haskell Wiki? What would be the advantages, and inconvenients? If we wanted to, I could just have haskell.fr redirect there. I am actually not satisfied with the wiki I created, for instance syntax highlighting with the presence of links is a huge pain, as you might notice if you read the sources... and not automated at all... I'd be happy to test Gitit and switch to it if it makes sense. Concerning the integration or separation with HaskellWiki: * Integration (+) Everything is in the same place (+) We can link english articles from the French ones when there's no translation (+) We benefit from the work that was done on HaskellWiki (the design, the syntax highlighting) (-) When people go to the home page, it's all English again! (-) Lack of visibility (it's actually not trivial to find the page I linked up there...) (-) We inherit the flaws of HaskellWiki (as you mentioned, maybe use another wiki engine) (?) How feasible is it? Should all our pages be into a fr namespace or something in these lines? * Separation (+) We are free to do things differently (-) We're separated from haskell.org, which is the reference place Well, I'd be happy to discuss this further. As you said, it's still fresh enough that I'm okay with moving everything elsewhere or restarting from zero. - Valentin Robert Since you're starting from fresh, it would be great if the wiki
were running Gitit instead of Mediawiki. Advantages:
- Markdown is used in many places - You can have a Git/Darcs repository behind this
See http://wiki.darcs.net for an example of this in action.
Would be great if Haskell wiki were also running Gitit but that's a potentially a tougher nut to crack
-- Eric Kow http://erickow.com

hello,
I second the choice of gitit, if only to follow eat your own dog food principle. but gitit is also a really great piece of software.
I have really no strong advice on whether or not the wiki should be part of Haskell.org. but whatever the choice, I will definitely support this initiative as much a I can : I feel sad the French community is not much more vibrant (of course, this particular language space is occupied by ocaml In France), and will try to contribute a things or two I have been working on.
Arnaud
Le 21 sept. 2011 à 16:20, Valentin ROBERT
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 16:01, Eric Y. Kow
wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 00:00:26 +0200, Valentin ROBERT wrote: Excellent
On this particular topic, someone asked me why I did not reuse the FR part of Haskell wiki. That's a reasonable question in my opinion.
We have this page: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Fr/Haskell
Now, is it feasible, and okay, to create a French sub-wiki inside Haskell Wiki? What would be the advantages, and inconvenients? If we wanted to, I could just have haskell.fr redirect there.
I am actually not satisfied with the wiki I created, for instance syntax highlighting with the presence of links is a huge pain, as you might notice if you read the sources... and not automated at all... I'd be happy to test Gitit and switch to it if it makes sense.
Concerning the integration or separation with HaskellWiki:
* Integration (+) Everything is in the same place (+) We can link english articles from the French ones when there's no translation (+) We benefit from the work that was done on HaskellWiki (the design, the syntax highlighting) (-) When people go to the home page, it's all English again! (-) Lack of visibility (it's actually not trivial to find the page I linked up there...) (-) We inherit the flaws of HaskellWiki (as you mentioned, maybe use another wiki engine) (?) How feasible is it? Should all our pages be into a fr namespace or something in these lines?
* Separation (+) We are free to do things differently (-) We're separated from haskell.org, which is the reference place
Well, I'd be happy to discuss this further. As you said, it's still fresh enough that I'm okay with moving everything elsewhere or restarting from zero.
- Valentin Robert
Since you're starting from fresh, it would be great if the wiki were running Gitit instead of Mediawiki. Advantages:
- Markdown is used in many places - You can have a Git/Darcs repository behind this
See http://wiki.darcs.net for an example of this in action.
Would be great if Haskell wiki were also running Gitit but that's a potentially a tougher nut to crack
-- Eric Kow http://erickow.com
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Arnaud Bailly
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Eric Y. Kow
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Valentin ROBERT
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Yves Parès