Sadly! I like hugs because it can embed in my game client as lua. For game logic language, I think the following properties are important: 1. Portable, works on pc,macosx,ios,android even flash or web. 2. Intepret, for quick develop, quick test. 3. Hot code load, for online bugfix. 4. Small, game client need to be as small as possiable So that lua best fits the rule very well, but i like haskell much more. After doing some research, I find in the haskell world, there is a hugs fits my demands. I'm sad to know that no one is maintaining hugs any more. I asking someone to keep develop on it, if no one, can I do it myself? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote:

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Junior White wrote:

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Hi Cafe, I downloaded the latest hugs98 source package, unzip and build, I get the following link errors. It seems many symbols are not defined, am I missing same depending libraries?

I don't think anyone is maintaining hugs any more.

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Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: "_environ", referenced from: ___hscore_environ in ccuTP291.o (maybe you meant: ___hscore_environ)

"environ" is a legacy pre-standards interface to the process environment and has been deprecated for a long time; it looks like Mountain Lion no longer exports it at all. More proof that hugs is moribund, if it's still using those ancient interfaces.

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Thanks! With your help, I have compiled hugs on my macbook! I'll try to embed it into my game client engine next week. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Junior White wrote:

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So that lua best fits the rule very well, but i like haskell much more. After doing some research, I find in the haskell world, there is a hugs fits my demands. I'm sad to know that no one is maintaining hugs any more. I asking someone to keep develop on it, if no one, can I do it myself?

Probably you could, but the effort needed might be significant. In particular fixing things like environ.... see https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/attachments/2591/ruby-changes.patch for the kind of change you'll need to make, although I have to say the way they chose to do it is risky at best (but sadly typical). Probably something similar for other missing symbols; feel free to ask me for help in private email.

-- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allbery.b@gmail.com ballbery@sinenomine.net unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.net

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Junior White wrote:

Sadly! I like hugs because it can embed in my game client as lua. For game logic language, I think the following properties are important: 1. Portable, works on pc,macosx,ios,android even flash or web. 2. Intepret, for quick develop, quick test. 3. Hot code load, for online bugfix. 4. Small, game client need to be as small as possiable

So that lua best fits the rule very well, but i like haskell much more. After doing some research, I find in the haskell world, there is a hugs fits my demands. I'm sad to know that no one is maintaining hugs any more. I asking someone to keep develop on it, if no one, can I do it myself?

I used gofer (predecessor of hugs) to teach programming in the early 90s. Some changes which I made to it are here https://github.com/rusimody/gofer It did compile a few months ago with gcc 4.7 Rusi -- http://www.the-magus.in http://blog.languager.org