The votes are in!

Eelco Lempsink

24 Mar 2009 24 Mar '09

8:20 a.m.

The results of the Haskell logo competition are in! You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/ results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath Congratulations Jeff Wheeler! I'll set up a page with the results visibile. -- Regards, Eelco Lempsink

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John Van Enk

24 Mar 24 Mar

8:29 a.m.

Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language? /jve 2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/%7Eandru/cgi-perl/civs/ results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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Andrew Wagner

8:33 a.m.

Ooh, let me pop some popcorn! 2009/3/24 John Van Enk

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Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language?

/jve

2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/%7Eandru/cgi-perl/civs/ results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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Creighton Hogg

8:42 a.m.

2009/3/24 John Van Enk :

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Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language?

Well given the fact that Haskell has been called the world's best imperative language, that we have a multinational community, and that baby eating is an acceptable part of Haskell optimization* I think he'll fit in just fine. * Don Stewart might have a blog post about this, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

John Van Enk

3:41 p.m.

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and that baby eating is an acceptable part of Haskell optimization

Actually, yes. It's usually best used like this: data Foo = Bar {-# UNPACK #-} {-# EAT BABY #-} !Int On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Creighton Hogg wrote:

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2009/3/24 John Van Enk :

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Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language?

Well given the fact that Haskell has been called the world's best imperative language, that we have a multinational community, and that baby eating is an acceptable part of Haskell optimization* I think he'll fit in just fine.

* Don Stewart might have a blog post about this, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

-- /jve

Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH

11:26 a.m.

On 2009 Mar 24, at 8:29, John Van Enk wrote:

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Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language?

"He uses unsafeInterleaveIO!" -- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH

Andrew Wagner

11:29 a.m.

He ONCE used unsafeInterleaveIO, but he never evaluated it, and never tried it again! 2009/3/24 Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH

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On 2009 Mar 24, at 8:29, John Van Enk wrote:

Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language?

"He uses unsafeInterleaveIO!"

-- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH

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Bulat Ziganshin

11:38 a.m.

New subject: Re[2]: The votes are in!

Hello Andrew, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:29:18 PM, you wrote: then it was thoughtcrime and that sort of things even more dangerous for State!

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He ONCE used unsafeInterleaveIO, but he never evaluated it, and never tried it again!

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2009/3/24 Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH

On 2009 Mar 24, at 8:29, John Van Enk wrote: Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language?

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"He uses unsafeInterleaveIO!"

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Jeff Wheeler

6 p.m.

Yay, thanks everybody! As Eelco pointed out, Darrin Thompson deserves much of the credit for coming up with the design; I just made it pretty in Photoshop. :) On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:29 -0400, John Van Enk wrote:

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Is this the part where all the pundits come out and talk about how Jeff isn't a citizen, eats babies, and wants to turn Haskell into an imperative language?

I'm a citizen! I have consciously never executed unsafePerformIO (I know better!). I have been hanging about quite regularly for a little over a year now, when I started playing with Yi, and then intermittently contributing there. I now hang about in #yi most every day, and #haskell quite frequently too. I rarely have anything sufficiently interesting for the mailing list. ;) Again, thanks (and Darrin, too)! Jeff Wheeler

Sebastiaan Visser

9:06 a.m.

Well done! Although I am quite happy with the result, this was definitely my favorite, this logo is not really 'finished'. Is there going to be some kind of second round in which we can vote for/suggest variations of this logo? With different texts/fonts/colors/ etc? Gr, Sebastiaan On Mar 24, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Eelco Lempsink wrote:

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/ civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

Eelco Lempsink

9:39 a.m.

On 24 mrt 2009, at 13:20, Eelco Lempsink wrote:

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/ civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

And, also congratulations to Darrin Thompson! He's the one that originally came up with the idea: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-December/051939.html

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I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

The page is at http://community.haskell.org/~eelco/results.html (I hope the community server will survive, I expect so since the images are hosted at the main Haskell server.) The next step is to decide what the next steps are ;) We could have polls all year deciding by committee on every little detail, but that will most likely not only kill all creativity, but also the willingness to vote. In my mind, the competition was mainly about deciding for a new emblem to be featured on Haskell.org and to be used on t-shirts and websites as people please. The font to be used to write 'Haskell', a slogan, etc, are probably not issues that need to be decided on and would only make the whole process a lot more complex. Given the winner, the possible variations are limited to color (oh, boy), coloring (lambda accented, bind accented or all the same) and possible font-like things such as the line shapes (much like George Pollard did with his variant, entry #50, placed 9th). My preference would be to have one person with sense of (and education in, if possible) design make some nice looking variations and have a second (final) round of voting, but, we could also do the wiki-thing again ;) -- Regards, Eelco Lempsink

Achim Schneider

10:50 a.m.

Eelco Lempsink wrote:

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My preference would be to have one person with sense of (and education in, if possible) design make some nice looking variations and have a second (final) round of voting, but, we could also do the wiki-thing again ;)

That was the plan, yes. This time 'round, we should nitpick about half-a-point-off layouts, as well as require sanely-written svg's or even metapost, so we have clearly defined proportions of linewith vs. gapwidth and so on. I'm not sure whether it's good to deal with layout and colour in one voting, the bickering about the last vote suggests it's better to do multiple votes with a smaller quantity of options. I'd say the next round is about triples of monochrome a) logo appearance, b) logo with "Haskell" c) logo with "Haskell" and slogan. ...the problem being, we don't have an official slogan, yet. Maybe there shouldn't be one and the candidates should just give example layouts for a short, medium and long slogan. Colour can be dealt with later, and t-shirt manufacturers can already now begin to print variations that don't qualify for letter-heads, like lambda-bind shaped quines and stuff. -- (c) this sig last receiving data processing entity. Inspect headers for copyright history. All rights reserved. Copying, hiring, renting, performance and/or quoting of this signature prohibited.

Sean Leather

11:12 a.m.

Eelco Lempsink wrote:

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Given the winner, the possible variations are limited to color (oh, boy), coloring (lambda accented, bind accented or all the same) and possible font-like things such as the line shapes (much like George Pollard did with his variant, entry #50, placed 9th).

I agree that we should have only one more round of voting. I also like the idea of choosing a logo without text, much like the now standard feed icon ( http://www.feedicons.com/ ). It allows for international recognition without dependency on language. It also can be flexibly used for web and t-shirt designs with multiple fonts. In fact, I would expect to see a version of this logo become the new favicon ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon ) for haskell.org and other sites, and there's no room for text there. Having multiple color combinations would be a bonus. Again, see the feed icon for a decent example. I would also like to see how one image looks at different scales, e.g. feed icon (of course) and very large (for posters). This isn't necessarily a single image scaled, of course, but it should be obvious that an icon comes from the same design as a poster splash. My preference would be to have one person with sense of (and education in,

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if possible) design make some nice looking variations and have a second (final) round of voting, but, we could also do the wiki-thing again ;)

I would also like to see skilled designers compete in this round as well. I don't know whether it should be limited to just one person, one team, or several teams. The focus is narrower, so the details are more important. It might be good to have multiple small groups involved. Regards, Sean

FFT

4:45 p.m.

I demand a recount! The one that launches the missile should have won! 2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink :

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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Ross Mellgren

4:46 p.m.

Doesn't matter how many times you seq the results, the thunk has been forced. -Ross On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, FFT wrote:

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I demand a recount! The one that launches the missile should have won!

2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink :

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl? num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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John Van Enk

4:47 p.m.

Unless there's a rogue unsafeChangeVotes call in there somewhere. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Ross Mellgren wrote:

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Doesn't matter how many times you seq the results, the thunk has been forced.

-Ross

On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, FFT wrote:

I demand a recount! The one that launches the missile should have won!

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2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink :

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl ?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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-- /jve

Ross Mellgren

4:48 p.m.

import Diebold.Unsafe (unsafeChangeVotes) ... ? -Ross On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:47 PM, John Van Enk wrote:

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Unless there's a rogue unsafeChangeVotes call in there somewhere.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Ross Mellgren wrote: Doesn't matter how many times you seq the results, the thunk has been forced.

-Ross

On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, FFT wrote:

I demand a recount! The one that launches the missile should have won!

2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink : The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl? num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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-- /jve

John Van Enk

5:14 p.m.

If any one seconds the motion, i'm picking up this part of the thread and putting it in the humor section of the haskell wiki. /jve On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Ross Mellgren wrote:

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import Diebold.Unsafe (unsafeChangeVotes)...

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-Ross

On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:47 PM, John Van Enk wrote:

Unless there's a rogue unsafeChangeVotes call in there somewhere.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Ross Mellgren wrote:

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Doesn't matter how many times you seq the results, the thunk has been forced.

-Ross

On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, FFT wrote:

I demand a recount! The one that launches the missile should have won!

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2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink :

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl ?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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-- /jve

Loup Vaillant

25 Mar 25 Mar

4:42 a.m.

2009/3/24 John Van Enk :

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If any one seconds the motion, i'm picking up this part of the thread and putting it in the humor section of the haskell wiki. /jve

Seconded.

Thomas Davie

24 Mar 24 Mar

6:31 p.m.

*Launches missiles* Bob (that was my logo) On 24 Mar 2009, at 21:46, Ross Mellgren wrote:

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Doesn't matter how many times you seq the results, the thunk has been forced.

-Ross

On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, FFT wrote:

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I demand a recount! The one that launches the missile should have won!

2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink :

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl? num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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Luke Palmer

4:47 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:45 PM, FFT wrote:

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I demand a recount! The one that launches the missile should have won!

I guess nobody evaluated its merits.

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2009/3/24 Eelco Lempsink :

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at

http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/%7Eandru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

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Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

I'll set up a page with the results visibile.

-- Regards,

Eelco Lempsink

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Henning Thielemann

5:41 p.m.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Eelco Lempsink wrote:

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

Is there also a measure of how strong the winner wins over the "losers"?

Max Rabkin

5:45 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Henning Thielemann wrote:

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http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Is there also a measure of how strong the winner wins over the "losers"?

The runner up was beaten 135 votes to 100. The linked page gives the results of the one-on-one contest between each entry and the winner, as well as between each entry and the next better one. --Max

Andres Loeh

5:48 p.m.

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

Is there also a measure of how strong the winner wins over the "losers"?

Scroll to the bottom of the results page linked above and click on the button, and you'll get a matrix comparing each logo to each other logo. You still have to interpret the results yourself, though. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Loeh, Universiteit Utrecht mailto:andres@cs.uu.nl mailto:mail@andres-loeh.de http://www.andres-loeh.de

Henning Thielemann

5:43 p.m.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Eelco Lempsink wrote:

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The results of the Haskell logo competition are in!

You can view them at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?num_winners=1&id=E_d21b0256a4fd5ed7&algorithm=beatpath

Congratulations Jeff Wheeler!

And ... please maintain the list of logos, since I think there are many good suggestions that could be used for other Haskell related projects.

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