Thanks Dominik, yes I'd already seen that thread (and @silky had commented on it). There's by now a couple more threads. Commenting on this topic of HF rather than Anduril gives me the opportunity for a couple of bits of feedback. * The equipment I use for most social commentary sites now doesn't work with Discourse. - So it's quite awkward for me to post more than a short message there. * The moderators on Discourse seem to frequently 'ping' my posts, for reasons I don't understand. - Less so here. - This is particularly ironic given the offensive nature of the X/witter posts that have come to light. - You won't find any posts from me on X/Facebook/Instagram/etc that are such 'disrespectful communication'; - nor any that have gotten suppressed by moderators in Haskell-land; - nor as ad-hominem. (I comment on the words/the matter at hand, not on whoever posts them.) * I don't think the concern is Anduril/an outside organisation specifically (as I said above), - but rather the focus should be on what's within HF's control. - The 'Community Guidelines' seem to be no more than lip-service to particular forms of wording on Haskell forums only, - oblivious to (or spinelessly avoiding) the substance -- thinking back to a thread last year. * If HF now wants to focus more on sponsors, - it's disrespectful to enthusiastic Haskell amateurs to keep up a level of engagement - that seems to me to be increasingly sham. - I'm looking at HF's actions rather than its words. - It's nice to use polite language. It's more polite/respectful to be honest. * There's no other programming language whose design I've had such a level of engagement with. - If Haskell's is now getting getting driven by sponsors rather than enthusiasts; - just say so. AntC