page names on the new Haskell wiki
Hello, the names of the pages of the new MediaWiki-driven Haskell wiki are often rather directory names than "article titles" as they are on Wikipedia. For example, the page "Books and tutorials about Haskell" isn't named "Books and tutorials about Haskell" or "Books and tutorials" but just "Books". Another example is the GHC documentation page which is named "GHC/Documentation". Here the slash is used to express a hierarchy as it's done in UNIX path names, for example. But Wikipedia uses the slash just where it is used normally. For example, the term "I/O" contains a slash and the Wikipedia article about I/O is named "I/O". I propose that we stick to the Wikipedia convention and choose page names which are a short description of the page's topic in normal (English) language. Remember, that the page name is not only part of the page's URL but also displayed as a title on the page and in the window's title bar. What do you think? Best wishes, Wolfgang
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
Hello,
the names of the pages of the new MediaWiki-driven Haskell wiki are often rather directory names than "article titles" as they are on Wikipedia. For example, the page "Books and tutorials about Haskell" isn't named "Books and tutorials about Haskell" or "Books and tutorials" but just "Books". Another example is the GHC documentation page which is named "GHC/Documentation". Here the slash is used to express a hierarchy as it's done in UNIX path names, for example. But Wikipedia uses the slash just where it is used normally. For example, the term "I/O" contains a slash and the Wikipedia article about I/O is named "I/O".
MediaWiki uses "/" to create hierarchy also, though Wikipedia happens to discourage this use. If you go to "GHC/Documentation", you'll see a link back to the parent "< GHC" near the top of the page. This is inserted by the MediaWiki software, but only because the page "GHC" exists. You can also create relative links, see the GHC page source for examples. On the other hand, if someone were to create a page "I/O", it wouldn't have a link back to "I" unless that page existed. So you can have it either way.
I propose that we stick to the Wikipedia convention and choose page names which are a short description of the page's topic in normal (English) language. Remember, that the page name is not only part of the page's URL but also displayed as a title on the page and in the window's title bar.
What do you think?
I don't mind people creating hierarchies such as Simon M's performance resource. It may not be appropriate for a pure encyclopedia like Wikipedia, but HaskellWiki will be replacing the haskell.org site (shortly) and a more hierarchical structure may be appropriate for some content.
Am Freitag, 27. Januar 2006 20:44 schrieb Ashley Yakeley:
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I don't mind people creating hierarchies such as Simon M's performance resource. It may not be appropriate for a pure encyclopedia like Wikipedia, but HaskellWiki will be replacing the haskell.org site (shortly) and a more hierarchical structure may be appropriate for some content.
Maybe we should allow using slashes for specifying hierarchy. But nevertheless I think that page names shouldn't be "mnemonic", so I would, for example, use "Books and tutorials" instead of "Books". Best wishes, Wolfgang
On 27.01 21:13, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
I don't mind people creating hierarchies such as Simon M's performance resource. It may not be appropriate for a pure encyclopedia like Wikipedia, but HaskellWiki will be replacing the haskell.org site (shortly) and a more hierarchical structure may be appropriate for some content.
Maybe we should allow using slashes for specifying hierarchy. But nevertheless I think that page names shouldn't be "mnemonic", so I would, for example, use "Books and tutorials" instead of "Books".
Short and nice URLs without too many %20 are a nice thing to have. Please consider at least leaving shorter names as alternatives with redirection if you must use long names for some reason. - Einar Karttunen
Am Samstag, 28. Januar 2006 00:29 schrieb Einar Karttunen:
On 27.01 21:13, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
I don't mind people creating hierarchies such as Simon M's performance resource. It may not be appropriate for a pure encyclopedia like Wikipedia, but HaskellWiki will be replacing the haskell.org site (shortly) and a more hierarchical structure may be appropriate for some content.
Maybe we should allow using slashes for specifying hierarchy. But nevertheless I think that page names shouldn't be "mnemonic", so I would, for example, use "Books and tutorials" instead of "Books".
Short and nice URLs without too many %20 are a nice thing to have.
For URLs, MediaWiki converts every space into an underscore. So if the page name is "Books and tutorials" then the URL is http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Books_and_tutorials.
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Best wishes, Wolfgang
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