Hi ArchHaskell users!
As you've probably noticed my activity in maintaining ArchHaskell
declined during the autumn of 2017 and by December it was
non-existing.
Unfortunately my motivation to pick it up again just isn't there.
That's
why I'm sending out this email.
Please respond to this email if you are willing to take on
maintaining
ArchHaskell.
/M
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
— Pablo Picasso
I've received notice that the machine hosting the Arch Haskell repo is
being retired. Unfortunately there is no replacement machine to migrate
the repo to.
If you happen to have some spare resources on a machine running Arch[^1]
and can host the repo, please let me know.
Finally, a huge thanks to Bernardo for hosting the repo these last few
years. He's been excellent in all communication and his contribution to
this little community has been very appreciated. Thank you!
/M
[^1]: It is possible to host on a non-Arch machine of course, but
everything just becomes so much easier if all tools (repo-add,
repo-remove, etc) already are present on the machine.
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Some people, when confronted with a problem, think,
“I know, I’ll use Haskell.” Now their problem is entirely academic.
I successfully installing ghc, cabal-install and stack using the "official
repos" but I when subsequently using "sudo pacman -Syu" I was getting weird
errors that "haddock" files were missing.
So I removed all the haskell stuff I'd installed previously (I hope) and
then updated my pacman.conf to add the haskell-core repo [1] and ran "sudo
pacman -Syu" all seems to be OK.
I then installed ghc and that seems fine:
$ sudo pacman -Syu ghc
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
haskell-core is up to date
community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
Packages (1) ghc-8.0.2-1
Total Installed Size: 1135.84 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in keyring
[#################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity
[#################################################################] 100%
(1/1) loading package files
[#################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts
[#################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk space
[#################################################################] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) installing ghc
[#################################################################] 100%
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/2) Rebuild Haskell doc index
(2/2) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
$ ghc --version
The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 8.0.2
But then I tried to install "stack" and it failed with:
"error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
ghc-libs: /usr/bin/ghc-pkg exists in filesystem":
$ sudo pacman -Syu stack
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
haskell-core is up to date
community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
Packages (170) ghc-libs-8.2.1-1 haskell-aeson-1.0.2.1.x1-2
haskell-aeson-compat-0.3.6.x6-2 haskell-annotated-wl-pprint-0.7.0.x1-2
haskell-ansi-terminal-0.6.2.3.x0-252
haskell-ansi-wl-pprint-0.6.7.3.x0-252
haskell-asn1-encoding-0.9.5.x0-3 haskell-asn1-parse-0.9.4.x0-257
haskell-asn1-types-0.3.2.x0-256 haskell-async-2.1.1.1.x0-1
haskell-attoparsec-0.13.1.0.x0-7
haskell-attoparsec-iso8601-1.0.0.0.x0-1 haskell-auto-update-0.1.4.x0-252
haskell-base-compat-0.9.3.x0-1
haskell-base-orphans-0.6.x0-1
haskell-base16-bytestring-0.1.1.6.x0-252
haskell-base64-bytestring-1.0.0.1.x0-252 haskell-bifunctors-5.4.2.x0-1
haskell-bindings-uname-0.1-2 haskell-bitarray-0.0.1.1.x0-2
haskell-blaze-builder-0.4.0.2.x0-252 haskell-blaze-html-0.9.0.1.x0-1
haskell-blaze-markup-0.8.0.0.x0-1
haskell-byteable-0.1.1.x0-252 haskell-call-stack-0.1.0.x0-2
haskell-case-insensitive-1.2.0.9.x0-1 haskell-cereal-0.5.4.0.x0-2
haskell-clock-0.7.2.x0-2
haskell-comonad-5.0.1.x0-1 haskell-conduit-1.2.10.x0-1
haskell-conduit-extra-1.1.15.x1-2 haskell-connection-0.2.8.x0-3
haskell-contravariant-1.4.x0-255
haskell-cookie-0.4.2.1.x0-252
haskell-cryptohash-0.11.9.x0-259
haskell-cryptohash-sha256-0.11.100.1.x1-1 haskell-cryptonite-0.22.x0-3
haskell-cryptonite-conduit-0.2.0.x0-4
haskell-data-default-class-0.1.2.0.x0-252 haskell-digest-0.0.1.2.x0-252
haskell-distributive-0.5.2.x2-2
haskell-dlist-0.8.0.2.x0-2 haskell-easy-file-0.2.1.x0-252
haskell-echo-0.1.3-2 haskell-ed25519-0.0.5.0.x2-252
haskell-either-4.4.1.1.x1-8
haskell-exceptions-0.8.3.x1-3 haskell-extra-1.5.2.x0-1
haskell-fast-logger-2.4.10.x0-1 haskell-file-embed-0.0.10.x0-2
haskell-filelock-0.1.0.1.x0-252
haskell-foundation-0.0.9.x0-1 haskell-free-4.12.4.x0-257
haskell-fsnotify-0.2.1.x0-257 haskell-generic-deriving-1.11.2.x0-1
haskell-gitrev-1.2.0.x0-252
haskell-glob-0.7.14.x0-1
haskell-hackage-security-0.5.2.2.x3-1 haskell-hashable-1.2.6.0.x1-1
haskell-hastache-0.6.1.x5-1 haskell-hinotify-0.3.9.x0-4
haskell-hourglass-0.2.10.x0-252 haskell-hpack-0.17.0.x0-6
haskell-hspec-2.4.3.x0-1 haskell-hspec-core-2.4.3.x0-1
haskell-hspec-discover-2.4.3.x0-1
haskell-hspec-expectations-0.8.2.x0-3
haskell-hspec-smallcheck-0.4.2.x0-4 haskell-http-api-data-0.3.7.x0-1
haskell-http-client-0.5.6.1.x0-5
haskell-http-client-tls-0.3.4.1.x0-3
haskell-http-conduit-2.2.3.1.x0-8 haskell-http-types-0.9.1.x0-257
haskell-hunit-1.5.0.0.x0-2 haskell-ieee754-0.8.0.x0-1
haskell-integer-logarithms-1.0.1.x1-1
haskell-lifted-base-0.2.3.10.x0-4 haskell-logict-0.6.0.2.x0-2
haskell-memory-0.14.5.x0-1 haskell-microlens-0.4.8.0.x0-1
haskell-microlens-mtl-0.1.10.0.x0-1
haskell-microlens-th-0.4.1.1.x0-1 haskell-mime-types-0.1.0.7.x0-252
haskell-mintty-0.1.1-2 haskell-mmorph-1.0.9.x1-1
haskell-monad-control-1.0.1.0.x0-253
haskell-monad-logger-0.3.24.x0-1 haskell-monad-loops-0.4.3.x0-252
haskell-monadrandom-0.5.1.x0-1
haskell-mono-traversable-1.0.2.x0-3
haskell-mtl-2.2.1.x1-252 haskell-network-2.6.3.1.x0-252
haskell-network-uri-2.6.1.0.x0-252 haskell-old-locale-1.0.0.7.x1-252
haskell-old-time-1.1.0.3.x1-252
haskell-open-browser-0.2.1.0.x0-252
haskell-optparse-applicative-0.13.2.0.x0-1
haskell-optparse-simple-0.0.3.x0-262
haskell-parsec-3.1.11.x0-252 haskell-path-0.5.13.x0-1
haskell-path-io-1.2.2.x1-1 haskell-path-pieces-0.2.1.x1-252
haskell-pem-0.2.2.x0-252
haskell-persistent-2.6.1.x0-7
haskell-persistent-sqlite-2.6.2.x0-7
haskell-persistent-template-2.5.2.x0-7 haskell-pid1-0.1.0.1.x1-2
haskell-prelude-extras-0.4.0.3.x0-252
haskell-primitive-0.6.1.0.x1-252 haskell-profunctors-5.2.x1-2
haskell-project-template-0.2.0.x0-269
haskell-quickcheck-2.9.2.x0-4
haskell-quickcheck-io-0.1.4.x0-5 haskell-random-1.1.x1-1
haskell-regex-applicative-0.3.3.x0-252
haskell-regex-applicative-text-0.1.0.1.x0-252
haskell-resource-pool-0.2.3.2.x0-256 haskell-resourcet-1.1.9.x0-6
haskell-retry-0.7.4.2.x0-6
haskell-safe-0.3.14.x0-1 haskell-scientific-0.3.4.12.x0-1
haskell-semigroupoids-5.2.x0-1 haskell-semigroups-0.18.3.x0-1
haskell-setenv-0.1.1.3.x1-252
haskell-silently-1.2.5.x0-252 haskell-smallcheck-1.1.1.x1-3
haskell-socks-0.5.5.x1-253 haskell-split-0.2.3.1.x1-1
haskell-statevar-1.1.0.4.x0-253
haskell-stm-2.4.4.1.x1-1 haskell-stm-chans-3.0.0.4.x0-253
haskell-store-0.3.x2-4 haskell-store-core-0.3.x0-1
haskell-streaming-commons-0.1.17.x0-3
haskell-syb-0.6.x0-252 haskell-tagged-0.8.5.x1-2
haskell-tar-0.5.0.3.x0-252 haskell-temporary-1.2.0.4.x0-254
haskell-text-1.2.2.1.x0-252
haskell-text-metrics-0.2.0.x0-2
haskell-tf-random-0.5.x0-254 haskell-th-expand-syns-0.4.3.0.x0-1
haskell-th-lift-0.7.7.x0-1 haskell-th-lift-instances-0.1.11.x0-3
haskell-th-orphans-0.13.3.x0-9
haskell-th-reify-many-0.1.6.x0-8 haskell-th-utilities-0.2.0.1.x0-10
haskell-time-locale-compat-0.1.1.3.x0-252
haskell-tls-1.3.10.x2-2
haskell-transformers-base-0.4.4.x1-253
haskell-transformers-compat-0.5.1.4.x0-252
haskell-unicode-transforms-0.3.0.x0-1
haskell-unix-compat-0.4.3.1.x1-1
haskell-unix-time-0.3.7.x0-2 haskell-unliftio-0.1.0.0-5
haskell-unliftio-core-0.1.0.0-1 haskell-unordered-containers-0.2.8.0.x0-1
haskell-uri-bytestring-0.2.3.1.x0-3
haskell-uuid-types-1.0.3.x1-6 haskell-vector-0.12.0.1.x1-1
haskell-vector-algorithms-0.7.0.1.x1-2 haskell-void-0.7.2.x0-1
haskell-x509-1.6.5.x0-7 haskell-x509-store-1.6.2.x0-8
haskell-x509-system-1.6.4.x0-8 haskell-x509-validation-1.6.5.x0-8
haskell-yaml-0.8.22.x0-6
haskell-zip-archive-0.3.0.6.x0-1 haskell-zlib-0.6.1.2.x0-2
stack-1.5.1.20170916-2
Total Installed Size: 981.23 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(170/170) checking keys in keyring
[#################################################################] 100%
(170/170) checking package integrity
[#################################################################] 100%
(170/170) loading package files
[#################################################################] 100%
(170/170) checking for file conflicts
[#################################################################] 100%
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
ghc-libs: /usr/bin/ghc-pkg exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
My guess is that the conflict is because "ghc-libs-8.2.1-1" is being
installed which is version 8.2.1 where as ArchHaskell hasn't updated to
8.2.1 yet.
What would you advise?
-- Wink
[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ArchHaskell#haskell-core
Hi all,
I've seen some discussion in the Arch ML about the official packages now
using dynamic libs only, which seems to have lead to this bug:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/54561
I'm guessing our repo doesn't suffer from this, right? (I don't use
xmonad myself nowadays, so I thought I'd better ask.)
/M
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Some people, when confronted with a problem, think,
“I know, I’ll use Java.” Now they have a ProblemFactory.
-- Chris Lonnen
Hey, I'm not sure about the procedure here, but I added some packages
I'm using and you might want.
$ git request-pull origin/master https://github.com/archhaskell/habs master
warn: No match for commit 16619b82d5a114f3ffe011cce2223dab89deabb8 found at https://github.com/archhaskell/habs
warn: Are you sure you pushed 'master' there?
The following changes since commit 92b8ca15089245f143b3ffba6da68db7fc29714d:
Rename the build script. (2017-07-28 16:54:48 +0200)
are available in the git repository at:
https://github.com/archhaskell/habs master
for you to fetch changes up to 16619b82d5a114f3ffe011cce2223dab89deabb8:
Merge commit '92b8ca15' (2017-08-01 17:55:04 +0100)
----------------------------------------------------------------
João Miguel (4):
Added sdl2-2.2.0, along with its most recent dependencies.
Added cabal-doctest (needed but not included as a dependency in some packages)
Added sdl2-mixer
Merge commit '92b8ca15'
cblrepo.db | 11 +++++++++++
1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
The git repo I forked is available at
git://jrpi.mooo.com/Repositórios/habs.git. The binaries are available
an unofficial repository
(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_user_repositories#jrpi-hask…)
Hoping to hear from you,
João Miguel
I've just uploaded a first build of 8.2.1 to the testing repo:
[haskell-testing]
Server = http://xsounds.org/~haskell/testing/$arch
There are no other packages available yet. I had a quick look and
neither `stack` nor `pandoc` are currently buildable with 8.2.1 (without
at least changes to their cabal files.) Hopefully we won't have to wait
too long until upstream gets around to adjusting to this release :)
/M
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I have steadily endeavored to keep my mind free, so as to give up any
hypothesis, however much beloved — and I cannot resist forming one
on every subject — as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it.
— Charles Darwin (1809-1882)
Give the announcement that i686 is being phased[1] out I'll be doing the
same for Arch Haskell. Unless someone complains I'll remove the i686
repo ASAP.
/M
[1]: https://www.archlinux.org/news/phasing-out-i686-support/
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"Sendmail" and "make" are two well known programs that are pretty widely
regarded as being debugged into existence. That's why their command
languages are so poorly thought out and difficult to learn. It's not
just you — everyone finds them troublesome.
— Peter van der Linden, Expert C Programming, p. 220
I'd say that binary packages are really valuable for installing a global
haskell dev environment for quick hacks and scripts for which it would not
be practical to setup a project and download and build a lot of deps. At
least ghc and base should be installed globally so one can just fire up the
REPL to try things interactively.
I have noticed that community has gotten real good support for Haskell
(again), and I have switched to using that because I prefer community
controlled packages. For me this has worked out without any problem (I used
arch haskell before), so there may not be the need for arch haskell at this
point...
I am very greatful for all the work you've made on the arch haskell repo.
It served me well for a long time when the official haskell support failed.
Regards
Johan
On 9 Jan 2017 12:27 a.m., "Magnus Therning" <magnus(a)therning.org> wrote:
Hi all,
Well, the subject line says it all really. Does ArchHaskell still have
a role in the Arch world?
These are the reasons for asking this at this point:
- the Haskell packages in [community] now number more than 400 and there
is considerable overlap with ArchHaskell (unfortunately it's not a
superset, not yet anyway)
- the Haskell packages in [community] also seem to be well maintained
and to receive timely updates,
- the build-tool and development-tool situation for Haskell has improved
considerably over the last few years, between `stack` and `cabal`
coupled with improvements to `ghci` and introduction of `ghc-mod`,
`intero` and `hsdev` I feel that Haskell development now should be
carried out without system-wide installation of libs.
In particular the last point means that I personally haven't had `ghc`
installed via a package for the last couple of months.
/M
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Hi all,
Well, the subject line says it all really. Does ArchHaskell still have
a role in the Arch world?
These are the reasons for asking this at this point:
- the Haskell packages in [community] now number more than 400 and there
is considerable overlap with ArchHaskell (unfortunately it's not a
superset, not yet anyway)
- the Haskell packages in [community] also seem to be well maintained
and to receive timely updates,
- the build-tool and development-tool situation for Haskell has improved
considerably over the last few years, between `stack` and `cabal`
coupled with improvements to `ghci` and introduction of `ghc-mod`,
`intero` and `hsdev` I feel that Haskell development now should be
carried out without system-wide installation of libs.
In particular the last point means that I personally haven't had `ghc`
installed via a package for the last couple of months.
/M
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email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org
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