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Gitlab access
by Vandenbroucke, Alexander 26 Sep '24

26 Sep '24

PUBLIC Hi ghc-devs, Can someone please approve my request for a gitlab account (alexander.vandenbroucke(a)sc.com<mailto:alexander.vandenbroucke@sc.com>). I would like to report a bug. Kind Regards, Alexander Vandenbroucke ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies and notify the sender immediately. You may wish to refer to the incorporation details of Standard Chartered PLC, Standard Chartered Bank and their subsidiaries together with Standard Chartered Bank’s Privacy Policy via our main Standard Chartered PLC (UK) website at sc. com

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llvm 19 has been released
by George Colpitts 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

Hi llvm 19 has been released. Can we start using it in head? My smoke test of it with 9.10.1 was fine. Thanks George

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New GitLab account approval
by Мария Мухина 22 Sep '24

22 Sep '24

Hello, I would like to get my GitLab account approved. My username is maria. Best regards, Maria

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stack.yaml.lock gets dirty by building with build-stack
by ÉRDI Gergő 19 Aug '24

19 Aug '24

Hi, I have no local changes to hadrian/stack.yaml, but after running hadrian/build-stack, my hadrian/stack.yaml.lock file gets changed (all the custom package hashes are removed). Could someone check that the newly generated file is indeed the correct current one, and bump `master` if so? Thanks, Gergo

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Can't initialise vendored submodule
by Arnaud Spiwack 18 Aug '24

18 Aug '24

Dear all, I'm currently unable to build GHC's master branch as some of the submodules (presumably used by Hadrian) are making git pretty unhappy (I've used various variants of the command below, in a cleaned repository): ```console $ git submodule update --init error: submodule git dir '/home/aspiwack/projects/tweag/ghc/master/.git/modules/hadrian/vendored/Cabal' is inside git dir '/home/aspiwack/projects/tweag/ghc/master/.git/modules/hadrian' fatal: refusing to create/use '/home/aspiwack/projects/tweag/ghc/master/.git/modules/hadrian/vendored/Cabal' in another submodule's git dir Failed to clone 'hadrian/vendored/Cabal'. Retry scheduled error: submodule git dir '/home/aspiwack/projects/tweag/ghc/master/.git/modules/hadrian/vendored/Cabal' is inside git dir '/home/aspiwack/projects/tweag/ghc/master/.git/modules/hadrian' fatal: refusing to create/use '/home/aspiwack/projects/tweag/ghc/master/.git/modules/hadrian/vendored/Cabal' in another submodule's git dir Failed to clone 'hadrian/vendored/Cabal' a second time, aborting ``` Please advise on how to get unblocked. And, if I'm allowed to conclude with a plea: please be careful not to abuse Git's submodule system, it's wonky enough when used simply. -- Arnaud Spiwack Director, Research at https://moduscreate.com and https://tweag.io.

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HIE using ideclImplicit
by Brandon Allbery 15 Aug '24

15 Aug '24

I've been sitting on a potential proposal to enable per-import disabling of -Wunused-imports and -Wmissing-import-lists for a while now, and https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2024-August/136852.html has me thinking of moving forward with it. It turns out that this would be very easy to implement within ghc, as the ideclImplicit field of ideclExt (itself a field of ImportDecl) already does what's needed; it exists to track the implicit Prelude import, and would be almost trivial to set when parsing an import. I did a check to see if anything used it as a proxy for "this is the Prelude", and everything that wants that explicitly looks for the Prelude module, with one exception: HIE information excludes anything from an import with ideclImplicit set. My questions are: 1. Is this (omitting imports with ideclImplicit) even sane? What happens with HIE information when Prelude definitions are used in the module? 2. Is this use of ideclImplicit going to cause problems with my proposed use? 2a. Should HIE be checking explicitly for Prelude as other things do, or is it more correct for other imports with ideclImplicit set to be treated the same way? -- brandon s allbery kf8nh allbery.b(a)gmail.com

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How to implement type-level list concatenation as a GHC primitive type family
by Hécate 10 Aug '24

10 Aug '24

Hi GHC devs, I was wondering recently, considering that type family evaluation is notoriously slow, how one would implement type-level list concatenation directly within GHC in a way that is much less expensive to run. So I am looking for pointers, as this part of GHC is fairly unknown to me. Thinking about it, I'm actually unsure where the tyfam evaluation is happening. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Hécate -- Hécate ✨ 🐦: @TechnoEmpress IRC: Hecate WWW: https://glitchbra.in RUN: BSD

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GHC 9.12 release schedule
by Zubin Duggal 08 Aug '24

08 Aug '24

Hi all, We are in the process of planning the GHC 9.12 release. The tentative schedule is a fork date in mid September with a final release in late November. If you are working on any major patches that should be included in this release, please be in touch. Furthermore, please ensure that all appropriate tickets or MRs are appropriately tagged with the %9.12.1 milestone (https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/milestones/393) You can also use the release tracking ticket for further discussion: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/25123 Cheers, Zubin

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Reinstallable - base
by Simon Peyton Jones 07 Aug '24

07 Aug '24

Dear GHC devs Given the now-agreed split between ghc-internal and base <https://github.com/haskellfoundation/tech-proposals/pull/51>, what stands in the way of a "reinstallable base"? Specifically, suppose that - GHC 9.8 comes out with base-4.9 - The CLC decides to make some change to `base`, so we get base-4.10 - Then GHC 9.10 comes out with base-4.10 I think we'd all like it if someone could use GHC 9.10 to compile a library L that depends on base-4.9 and either L doesn't work at all with base-4.10, or L's dependency bounds have not yet been adjusted to allow base-4.10. We'd like to have a version of `base`, say `base-4.9.1` that has the exact same API as `base-4.9` but works with GHC 9.10. Today, GHC 9.10 comes with a specific version of base, *and you can't change it*. The original reason for that was, I recall, that GHC knows the precise place where (say) the type Int is declared, and it'll get very confused if that data type definition moves around. But now we have `ghc-internal`, all these "things that GHC magically knows" are in `ghc-internal`, not `base`. *Hence my question: what (now) stops us making `base` behave like any other library*? That would be a big step forward, because it would mean that a newer GHC could compile old libraries against their old dependencies. (Some changes would still be difficult. If, for example, we removed Monad and replaced it with classes Mo1 and Mo2, it might be hard to simulate the old `base` with a shim. But getting 99% of the way there would still be fantastic.) Simon

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How to get unfoldings inside a GHC plugin
by Jonathan Arnoult 06 Aug '24

06 Aug '24

Hello, I am working on Liquid Haskell, and I'd like to use the unfoldings of definitions located in interface files to unfold them in proofs. Liquid Haskell is a GHC plugin that runs in the type checking phase at the moment, and for analysis purposes it also compiles the module down to Core. I have found that unfolding information is available in the mi_decls field of ModIface, and in the field realUnfoldingInfo of IdInfo. However, my first attempts to grab for these fields yield no unfoldings either because they have been erased (mi_decls is filled with an error call in loadInterface) or they were not constructed to begin with (realUnfoldingInfo is set to NoUnfolding). In my setting, I have the name of a function, and I would need to retrieve the unfoldings (if they exist) from some environment. Does this environment exist already that is reachable to a plugin? Or do I need to construct it somehow? I also found that GHC makes a distinction between interface files in external packages and the home package, while I really would like to get the unfolding from wherever they happen to be. Any advice is appreciated.

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