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Should TH TExp be able use the Q monad
by Simon Peyton Jones 18 Apr '16

18 Apr '16

| > Hang on! The design for typed splices, describe here, | > https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/TemplateHaskell/BlogPostChanges | > says "Unlike TH, the only way to construct a value of type TExp is | with a quote. You cannot drop into do-notation, nor use explicit | construction of the values in the Exp algebraic data type. That | restriction limits expressiveness, but it enables the strong typing | guarantees." | > | > So why does the above work? $$(e) requires a TExp, and do-notation | doesn’t produce a TExp. | | Indeed this is true -- this is what that page says. But it's not what's | implemented: when I say $$( _ ) :: Bool, GHC tells me that the hole has | type Q (TExp Bool). | There still is no way to create a TExp other than to use a type TH quote Humph. I suppose that provided you can't forge a TExp, there's no way to splice in a type-incorrect program; and having Q available lets you (say) do input/output or consult the context to decide which of two quotes to return. We could do this selectively. For example we'd certainly need (TExp t) to be able to fail > bool :: String -> TExp Bool > bool "true" = [|| True ||] > bool "false" = [|| False ||] > bool _ = failTexp "not a bool" My instinct is to make it less expressive, though, and only allow (TExp t) as the argument of $$. Does anyone care either way? I suppose we'd better open a ticket for this. Simon | | quote. | | Addressing your other message: a typed quasiquoter would be somewhat | limited, but not utterly silly. For example, this works: | | > bool :: String -> Q (TExp Bool) | > bool "true" = [|| True ||] | > bool "false" = [|| False ||] | > bool _ = fail "not a bool" | > | > -- and then, in another module because of the stage restriction: | > yes :: Bool | > yes = $$(bool "true") | | Now `bool` could be a typed quasiquoter. | | I don't know whether any of this is worth implementing, but it's not, a | priori, a terrible idea. | | Richard | | > | > | * Should we consider it a bug (and file a ticket) that reification | > | in typed splices is able to observe the order of type checking, | > | just like reify used to do in untyped splices? | > | > Yes I think so!!! | > | > Simon | >

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RE: Whither default build variables for make files?
by Andrey Mokhov 18 Apr '16

18 Apr '16

Hi Carter, > On the flip side : is the shake build system alternative mature enough > for it to be reasonable to attempt using it on my Mac ? Here are the limitations of the Shake build system: https://github.com/snowleopard/shaking-up-ghc#current-limitations If you are not put off by them, please give the new build system a try! Cheers, Andrey

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Phabricator build failures
by Joachim Breitner 18 Apr '16

18 Apr '16

Hi, some recent commits on GHC HEAD fail to validate on phabricator, all with a segfault in the tests, but in an different tests each (or sometimes no failure at all). This this known? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim “nomeata” Breitner mail(a)joachim-breitner.de • https://www.joachim-breitner.de/ XMPP: nomeata(a)joachim-breitner.de • OpenPGP-Key: 0xF0FBF51F Debian Developer: nomeata(a)debian.org

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Spam filtering
by Ben Gamari 17 Apr '16

17 Apr '16

Hello GHCers, As you may have noticed, the GHC Trac instance is currently being hit with a significant amount of spam traffic recently. I believe I've cleared up most of the garbage and the filter configuration has been tightened so that future spam attacks will be easier to quell. Of course, this tightening means that there is a greater chance of false positives. If you do find that your ticket comments or Wiki edits are being rejected by the spam filter, please notify either Austin or me so that we can train the filter on your example. Cheers, - Ben

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Re: GHC 8.0.1-rc3 source tarball availability
by Ben Gamari 15 Apr '16

15 Apr '16

Karel Gardas <karel.gardas(a)centrum.cz> writes: > Hi Ben, > > just got back from business trip and attempting to build distros for you > I've found that: > > karel@silence:~/Downloads/GHC/8.0.1/rc3$ gpg2 --verify > ghc-8.0.0.20160411-src.tar.xz.sig > Warning: using insecure memory! > gpg: Signature made April 11, 2016 03:23:45 AM CEST using RSA key ID > 97DB64AD > gpg: BAD signature from "Benjamin Gamari <ben(a)well-typed.com>" > It seems that the issue was once again my inability to convince the content delivery network to fully purge its cache. Thanks for realizing this issue. On the bright side, I think I have finally worked out how to reliably flush the cache so hopefully there will be no further issues of this tiresome sort. Unfortunately it's quite unclear what to do about your binary distribution as it's likely derived from the wrong source tree. As we will likely have to do a fourth release candidate anyways (due to the template haskell issue brought up by Iavor today), perhaps it would be best just to wait until then before sinking any more of your time into further builds. It likely won't be long before we have another source tree available although I'll leave the decision to you. Cheers, - Ben

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RE: [Diffusion] [Build Failed] rGHCa7ee2d4c4229: Improve TcFlatten.flattenTyVar
by Simon Peyton Jones 15 Apr '16

15 Apr '16

I can't see what's going wrong from the log. Works for me! Simon | -----Original Message----- | From: noreply(a)phabricator.haskell.org | [mailto:noreply@phabricator.haskell.org] | Sent: 15 April 2016 22:03 | To: Simon Peyton Jones <simonpj(a)microsoft.com> | Subject: [Diffusion] [Build Failed] rGHCa7ee2d4c4229: Improve | TcFlatten.flattenTyVar | | Harbormaster failed to build B9191: rGHCa7ee2d4c4229: Improve | TcFlatten.flattenTyVar! | | BRANCHES | master | | USERS | simonpj (Author) | GHC - Testsuite (Auditor) | GHC - Type checker/inferencer (Auditor) | | COMMIT | https://phabricator.haskell.org/rGHCa7ee2d4c4229 | | EMAIL PREFERENCES | https://phabricator.haskell.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ | | To: simonpj, GHC - Testsuite, GHC - Type checker/inferencer, Harbormaster

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trac span
by Simon Peyton Jones 15 Apr '16

15 Apr '16

Ben, can you switch off Trac edits until you've found a way to plug this? 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Re: GHC 8 and Template Haskell
by Ryan Scott 15 Apr '16

15 Apr '16

> I've done a quick grep for InstanceD over the stackage-nightly-subset of Hackage: Wouldn't we also need to check for the instanceD function from Language.Haskell.TH.Lib as well? I know several of my packages use that exclusively over the InstanceD constructor, and I imagine others do as well. Ryan S.

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RE: [Diffusion] [Build Failed] rGHC2acfaae9a99d: Comments only
by Simon Peyton Jones 15 Apr '16

15 Apr '16

Bizarre. Harbourmaster says: ghc-stage1: ghc-stage1: out of memory (requested 1048576 bytes) out of memory (requested 1048576 bytes) I have no idea what is going on SImon | -----Original Message----- | From: noreply(a)phabricator.haskell.org | [mailto:noreply@phabricator.haskell.org] | Sent: 15 April 2016 15:35 | To: Simon Peyton Jones <simonpj(a)microsoft.com> | Subject: [Diffusion] [Build Failed] rGHC2acfaae9a99d: Comments only | | Harbormaster failed to build B9176: rGHC2acfaae9a99d: Comments only! | | BRANCHES | master | | USERS | simonpj (Author) | GHC - Core/System FC (Auditor) | | COMMIT | https://phabricator.haskell.org/rGHC2acfaae9a99d | | EMAIL PREFERENCES | https://phabricator.haskell.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ | | To: simonpj, GHC - Core/System FC, Harbormaster

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Trac spam
by Simon Peyton Jones 15 Apr '16

15 Apr '16

| I've spent a few hours today amending the spam filter list and trying | to expunge as much as I can manually. Unfortunately doing this via the | web interface is an incredibly labor intensive process, so I've | suspended my efforts until I can get shell access to our Trac | installation. Do you know when that will be? I'm getting one spam/minute at the moment. Simon | -----Original Message----- | From: Ben Gamari [mailto:ben@smart-cactus.org] | Sent: 15 April 2016 13:29 | To: Simon Peyton Jones <simonpj(a)microsoft.com>; ghc-devs(a)haskell.org | Subject: RE: [GHC] #11863: MSN Customer Service %% 18552337309 %% Live | Tech Assistance Phone Number | | Simon Peyton Jones <simonpj(a)microsoft.com> writes: | | > Devs, | > | > Is there anything anyone can do to kill off this spam? | > | I've spent a few hours today amending the spam filter list and trying | to expunge as much as I can manually. Unfortunately doing this via the | web interface is an incredibly labor intensive process, so I've | suspended my efforts until I can get shell access to our Trac | installation. | | It also looks like spambayes support isn't enabled in our Trac | configuration; I hopeful that enabling it will help immensely in | stemming this spam spree (but sadly this too will require shell | access). | | Cheers, | | - Ben

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